Re: [spoon-discuss] Things wrong with "Junior G-Men"

["Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 7/2/02 at 8:44 PM Wonko wrote:

>Quoth Glotmorf,
>
>> On 7/1/02 at 10:25 PM Wonko wrote:
>>
>>> Quoth Glotmorf,
>>>
>>>> On 6/30/02 at 2:56 AM David E. Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fourth, even if the other listed members could assent to membership,
>and
>>>>> could make proposals, they couldn't vote (their attempt to do so
>being a
>>>>> society rule, which defers to game rule 294). (This argument is a bit
>>>>> specious, but the others should make up for it.)
>>>>
>>>> The attempt of the members of the Junior G-Men to vote is not a society
>>> rule.
>>>> It is a requirement under Rule 578, subsection F: "All Members of a
>>> Society
>>>> auto-vote "yes" on any proposal the Society submits."  That means the
>>> members
>>>> of the Junior G-Men are specifically allowed by the rules to vote.
>Even
>>> if
>>>> you interpret "these rules" to mean the text of Rule 294, Rule 578
>>> subsection
>>>> F has a Chutzpah of 2, and therefore takes precedence.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sorry, where does it say that sections can have Chutzpahs that
>differ
>>> from their parent rule's?
>>
>> Rule 497:
>>
>> "If multiple subsections of a rule conflict with another rule, only those
>> subsections with a Chutzpah higher than the conflicting rule will take
>> priority over the conflicting rule. If multiple subsections of a rule
>conflict
>> with each other, the subsection with the highest Chutzpah takes
>precedence;
>> otherwise, normal precedence rules are followed."
>>
>
>Rule 33:
>
>"In the event of a conflict between two or more rules, the rule with the
>highest Chutzpah takes precedence."
>
>Rule 33 has a lower number than rule 497; it therefore supercedes it.

Rules 33 and 497 are not in conflict.  Rule 33 talks about an entire rule conflicting with another; Rule 497 talks about subsections of a rule conflicting with another rule, where different subsections of the rule have different Chutzpahs.  Two different cases, two different rules.

						Glotmorf


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