RE: spoon-discuss: Re: spoon-business: CFJ: Opening the floodgates

["Gavin Doig" <gmd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> >A player who submits a proposal in haiku form earns 10 Score points if the
> >proposal is adopted, in addition to any points received as a normal
> >consequence of the adoption of a proposal."
> >
> >To me, that reads as 10 points for submitting it, and another 10 if it
> >passes.
> 
> "earns 10 Score points if the proposal is adopted" seems to say you only get
> them, like, if the proposal is adopted.
>
Yes.

> Nowhere does it say you gain points for just submitting it.
>
Nowhere in the portion you quoted, certainly. The bit at the start of the rule that says
"Players submitting 
Proposals in haiku form 
Earn 10 extra points"
does, however. ;-)

> >Of course, there's always Glotmorf's "LOGAS isn't 2 syllables" argument,
> >but... well, that's a pretty cheap way of trying to stop me getting 10
> >points I don't even care about in the first place. ;-)
>
> Scuse me, but there are some people out there that'd pronounce the
> abbreviation LOGAS as "el oh gee ay ess", which don't fit yer limerick. 
> Those of various regional accents, and those attempting airs of literacy,
> might argue that the A can be regarded as silent, and thus pronounce it
> "log's" which is one syllable.
>
> I myself am a commuter, though, and therefore, in the depths of my mind,
> pronounce it "low-gas".  But the depths of my mind isn't a dictionary, and
> I don't recall seeing LOGAS in a dictionary.
>
Sure, you can find a pronunciation that's not 2 syllables. But you pretty much have to look... it's most natural (at least in the context of what's obviously a haiku) to interpret it as 2 syllables. And since the rules are silent on pronounciation, I see no reason not to go for the obvious interpretation. I mean, you'd accept it if there weren't points riding on it, right? Like you say, you're "trying to stop me"...

> But you see...I'm not trying to stop you getting 10 points.  I'm trying to
> stop you getting an EASY 10 points...:)
>
It's not so much easy, as accidental. If I'd been going for points, I'd have filled up my next week's allocation with unambiguously haiku'd proosals, and *then* CFJed. If the judge rules false on the grounds that it wasn't a haiku, and leaves out the issue of whether the rule gives out 10 points for submitting a haiku, it'll just be tiresome.

uin.
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