Josiah Worcester on Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:17:43 -0700 (MST)


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Re: [s-b] [s-d] Sheesh


On Tuesday 11 December 2007 22:14:58 Daniel Lepage wrote:
> This is completely ridiculous. If everyone insists on being so  
> childish, the game will never proceed.
> 
> A few claims, which I thought were obvious to anyone reading the  
> rules, but perhaps not.
> 
> 1) Rule 10 allows players to Invalidate Game Actions. It also  
> Validates game actions that aren't Invalidated. This is redundant  
> because Game Actions are, by definition, actions permitted by the  
> rules. Illegally attempted actions AREN'T GAME ACTIONS! You can't make  
> something happen just by saying it, and everyone needs to STOP TRYING.
> 
> 2) All this business about the uncertain state of the game IS NOT  
> currently an issue. 99% of all possible actions are clearly specified  
> as legal or not, and so far every contested action I've seen has come  
> about because somebody didn't read the rules carefully and didn't  
> think through what they were asserting.
> 
> 3) THE WIKI SHOULD NOT BE MODIFIED UNLESS YOU'RE SURE YOUR ACTIONS ARE  
> LEGAL! To do otherwise is arrogant, disruptive, and usually wrong, and  
> serves only to worsen the confusion and make it harder to recover.
> 
> 4) This is very important: Just because you *can* do something doesn't  
> mean you *should* do it. Some players seem not to understand this. I  
> don't know why you find it amusing to submit Consultations on, Object  
> to, and Invalidate every action on the fora, but it isn't funny, it  
> isn't clever, and it isn't "in the spirit of the game". It is petty,  
> childish, disruptive, and detrimental to all of us. I was out for four  
> hours and got almost seventy new messages, which is completely  
> ridiculous. Message death is, and has always been, the leading cause  
> of player dropout, and it's really stupid that we're doing it again  
> over a few ridiculous typos in the rules.
> 
> 
> Now can we PLEASE agree to stop this petty bickering and actually play  
> the damn game again?
> 
> -- 
> Wonko
> 
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First, agreed. Second:
Let there be a Paddling Stick.
Everyone who attempts to make a Game Action which is not defined as such shall 
be Paddled by the Paddling Stick.
This is not a game action.

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