Re: [s-b] consultation 17

["Roger Hicks" <pidgepot@xxxxxxxxx>]

To the public forum:

On 6/21/07, Roger Hicks <pidgepot@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 6/21/07, Antonio <antonio.dolcetta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > if this message is duplicated please ignore it
> >
> > I submit the following consultation:
> > {
> > Supposing there are two
> > Players, say A and B, where A is a single human being and B is a group
> > of human beings that contains A, then if A and B vote for the same
> > proposal only the most recent vote is counted. True or false ?
> > }
> > Reasoning:
> > {
> > B nomic has traditionally enforced the idea "one man, one vote"
> > If
> > a Primo style corporation were allowed to become a player any entity
> > who is a player by itself and is also part of the corporation would
> > have a number of votes >1
> > Bear with me here:
> > rule 2-2 states:
> > - Any Player may submit a Vote on an Open proposal at any time. ...
> > - The most recent Vote on a proposal by a Player is called that
> > - player's Final Vote on that proposal
> > the intent clearly being to allow only one vote from each player.
> > by Rule 1-4
> > - A Player is an Outsider
> > and by Rule 1-3
> > - An Outsider is an External Force
> > So going back to the consultation's example Player A who is part of B is actually resubmitting his Final vote through B.
> > }
> >
> > This is Consultation 17, assigned to BobTHJ
> >
> I have attempted to distance myself from Primo Corp while pondering
> this ruling, so as to deliver an impartial judgment. However, based
> upon the evidence at hand, I rule FALSE.
>
> This issue has been debated for several months on the Agoran forums
> (as partnership type entities have been participating there since
> February I believe), so I borrow some logic from there. In legal
> contexts, an organization formed by a binding agreement of its members
> it treated as a separate legal person with its own collective rights
> and responsibilities. Translated into B Nomic terms, such an
> organization constitutes an External Force distinct from the External
> Forces that comprise its membership. Therefore, when the organization
> votes, it represents a different Player then a member who votes
> independently as a Player.
>
> It is possible a case could be made that if a Player votes for
> themselves and then the same player makes a vote on behalf of an
> Organization that only the first of such votes is counted (since the
> same Player posted both votes), however that is beyond the scope of
> this Consultation.
>
> BobTHJ
>
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