Re: [eia] [escrow] July 1806 Political Orders

["Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxx>]

    For the record, I think Mike is being overly restrictive on himself.  I 
see no reason why a force cannot continue building depots as needed wherever 
they happen to be.  As Mike has pointed out before, although voluntary 
access has been rescinded, the corps that are currently there maintain the 
unconditional access rules that prevailed when they entered.  Thus, they 
should still be able to create depots and trace supply.  Mike says that a 
new French depot could not draw supply across an empty Prussian space, but I 
don't see what justifies this conclusion.

kdh

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Gorman" <mpgorman@xxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [eia] [escrow] July 1806 Political Orders


> At 07:51 AM 7/25/2006, you wrote:
>>The relevant question tough is whether the same route means the same 
>>route,
>>or can you use the previous unlimited access to return via Silesia, for
>>example.
>
> I would say yes I can.  Since the access agreement he entered under was
> unrestricted, he is unrestricted in his route back.  But as i said before 
> I
> think the new restriction follows along behind him closing off his ability
> to turn back east until he's moving around Prussian spaces he still has
> access to.  I'd also say if he headed south into Silesia he'd be unable to
> turn north west into Posen as once he's in Silesia he has clear ability to
> return home through Prussia via spaces he has access to under the new
> agreement.
>
>>Does Napoleon have to head for the coast and return westward?
>>What happens if he goes into Austria territory, does he lose his standing 
>>to
>>return via Prussia?
>>
>>I think your depots are safe, does that assume they are supplied (after 
>>you
>>create a depot to complete the chain)?
>
> This seems like a tougher one.  My sense is the pre-existing depot south 
> of
> Konigsberg could draw supplies through Danzig, assuming the Russian corps
> wasn't there, but that if I built a new one in the restricted area it 
> could
> not draw across an empty Prussian space.  So I don't think I could build a
> depot at Warsaw since drawing supply through Thorn would represent 
> bringing
> new French stuff further into a now restricted area.
>
>
> Can you create new depots in the denied access area?
>
> In theory yes, but I don't think it's actually possible.  Napoleon's stack
> is under no restriction on depot creation, but I don't think I could trace
> a new supply line into the area as that would seem to be a new movement
> into the restricted region.
>
> And I think this is consistent with the idea that you can fall back on 
> your
> supply lines and go home, but you can't use supply lines as a way to push
> forward into areas you are no longer welcome in.
>
>
>>I like the faintly sarcastic remark at the end about complete betrayal, of
>>course wasn't it Napoleon who said he'd "rather fight Allies than be one"?
>
> Yup, one of his good lines.
>
>>I was think my erstwhile Allies had forced you into Austrian territory
>>(albeit unsupplied), however, maybe not...
>
> I think what they're saying is that to do that to someone is an act of
> war.  So you can't do it unless you do so by declaring war.
> While saying please move your forces west as I'm dropping out of this war
> might annoy your ally, you aren't effectively attacking their army by
> trying to trap and starve it.
>
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