RE: [eia] 2nd Battle of the Forth, Coalition roll

[jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Here is the relevant rule:

6.2.6 ENEMY CONTROL OF A FLEET'S PORT: If a port in which a fleet is located 
becomes enemy-controlled, the fleet must be moved immediately (this will not 
happen during a Naval Phase, but during other phases and steps, including 
during a Declarations of War Step) into an adjacent sea area or the port's 
blockade box. Harbour defences are never used against fleets leaving a port.

6.2.6.1: If the port is blockaded by an enemy fleet at the time, the fleet in 
the port is scuttled instead and all its fleets and ships are lost. 
Alternately, if desired, the blockaded fleet(s) may choose to fight the 
blockading fleet(s), with the wind gauge automatically going to the blockading 
fleet(s). The blockaded fleet(s) remains in the blockade box if it wins the 
combat. The blockaded fleet(s) must be scuttled if it loses the naval combat.

I had thought the wording was that the blockaded fleet had to "attack" the 
blockaders if driven out of the port, but the rule uses the vaguer "fight" the 
blockading fleets.  So I guess it is an interception combat (?) and the 
blockaders are the attackers (?)

Does anyone disagree ?  This is a gray area, and I'm biased; I certainly don't 
want to ram this down anyone's throat.

If this is indeed the way we'll eventually interpret the result, then the 
Viking Armada must choose to retreat to a port or be retreated to an adjacent 
sea area.

-JJY

Quoting William Jaffe <billj6203@xxxxxxxxx>:

> Actually the INTERCEPTING power is the attacker, so the French lose as the
> attacker...
> (They could actually have let you go through, but choose to
> attack/intercept).
> 
> So Britain/Russia dodge this bullet...
> 
> Bill Jaffe
> Playing Wargames since 1958, and 18xx since 1829...
> billj6203@xxxxxxxxx
> 
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> Gah, I forgot to get rid of the second die roll.  Actually, I think this 
> combat is treated as an attack by my side (but check me on this), so I have
> to 
> beat your casualties to win.
> 
> 17 French-controlled X 25 % = 4 losses
> 19 - 4 = 15 remaining Coalition
> 15 X 25% = 4 losses
> 
> So assuming that I understand the rules correctly, our fleets are scuttled,
> my 
> army is destroyed, and my leader may or may not be captured.  
> 
> I guess it's going to be a long campaign.
> 
> -JJY
> 
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