| William Jaffe on Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:23:41 -0600 (CST) |
[Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread Index]
| RE: [eia] 2nd Battle of the Forth, Coalition roll |
6.3.1.1 is very clear: "The attacker is the phasing side if 6.2.4 applies, or the non-phasing intercepting side if the combat is caused by an interception." Therefore, France is the attacker. This is because France could actually let the fleets go through, and therefore initiates combat by intercepting. Bill Jaffe Playing Wargames since 1958, and 18xx since 1829... billj6203@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:00 PM To: public list for an Empires in Arms game Subject: RE: [eia] 2nd Battle of the Forth, Coalition roll Here is the relevant rule: 6.2.6 ENEMY CONTROL OF A FLEET'S PORT: If a port in which a fleet is located becomes enemy-controlled, the fleet must be moved immediately (this will not happen during a Naval Phase, but during other phases and steps, including during a Declarations of War Step) into an adjacent sea area or the port's blockade box. Harbour defences are never used against fleets leaving a port. 6.2.6.1: If the port is blockaded by an enemy fleet at the time, the fleet in the port is scuttled instead and all its fleets and ships are lost. Alternately, if desired, the blockaded fleet(s) may choose to fight the blockading fleet(s), with the wind gauge automatically going to the blockading fleet(s). The blockaded fleet(s) remains in the blockade box if it wins the combat. The blockaded fleet(s) must be scuttled if it loses the naval combat. I had thought the wording was that the blockaded fleet had to "attack" the blockaders if driven out of the port, but the rule uses the vaguer "fight" the blockading fleets. So I guess it is an interception combat (?) and the blockaders are the attackers (?) Does anyone disagree ? This is a gray area, and I'm biased; I certainly don't want to ram this down anyone's throat. If this is indeed the way we'll eventually interpret the result, then the Viking Armada must choose to retreat to a port or be retreated to an adjacent sea area. -JJY Quoting William Jaffe <billj6203@xxxxxxxxx>: > Actually the INTERCEPTING power is the attacker, so the French lose as the > attacker... > (They could actually have let you go through, but choose to > attack/intercept). > > So Britain/Russia dodge this bullet... > > Bill Jaffe > Playing Wargames since 1958, and 18xx since 1829... > billj6203@xxxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:32 PM > To: public list for an Empires in Arms game > Subject: Re: [eia] 2nd Battle of the Forth, Coalition roll > > Gah, I forgot to get rid of the second die roll. Actually, I think this > combat is treated as an attack by my side (but check me on this), so I have > to > beat your casualties to win. > > 17 French-controlled X 25 % = 4 losses > 19 - 4 = 15 remaining Coalition > 15 X 25% = 4 losses > > So assuming that I understand the rules correctly, our fleets are scuttled, > my > army is destroyed, and my leader may or may not be captured. > > I guess it's going to be a long campaign. > > -JJY > > > Quoting Dice server <dicemaster@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Dice rolls requested by: jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx > > Rolls sent to: > > eia@xxxxxxxxx > > > > # I & II Russian fleets with 14 ships > > # III British fleet with 5 ships > > # Total force of 19 ships > > # Wind guage is automatically lost > > # Roll is for combat with a British +1 > > > > No. of sides on every die: 6 > > No. of dice for every roll: 1 > > No. of dice rolls requested: 2 > > No. of rolls per line: 1 > > > > 6 > > 3 > > > > > > Information on the dice server: > > DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE! > > Replies to dicemaster@xxxxxxxxx vanish into a seldom-read mailbox. > > > > For instructions on using the dice server, send a message with > > subject "help" to dice@xxxxxxxxx, or see http://www.nomic.net/~dice/. > > > > The dice server is provided by: > > > > nomic.net > > http://www.nomic.net/ > > > > > > Original message follows: > > >Return-Path: <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > >X-Original-To: dice@xxxxxxxxx > > >Delivered-To: dice@xxxxxxxxx > > >Received: from mailbox.iwaynet.net (webmail.iwaynet.net [66.195.224.30]) > > > by charybdis.ellipsis.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7365EA49 > > > for <dice@xxxxxxxxx>; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:06:49 -0600 (CST) > > >Received: from mailbox.iwaynet.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) > > > by mailbox.iwaynet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k2EI7SVs001025 > > > for <dice@xxxxxxxxx>; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:07:28 -0500 > > >Received: (from nobody@localhost) > > > by mailbox.iwaynet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k2EI7Stl001017 > > > for dice@xxxxxxxxx; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:07:28 -0500 > > >X-Authentication-Warning: mailbox.iwaynet.net: nobody set sender to > > jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx using -f > > >Received: from 164.83.99.83 ( [164.83.99.83]) > > > as user jjy@localhost by webmail.iwaynet.net with HTTP; > > > Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:07:28 -0500 > > >Message-ID: <1142359648.441706602e675@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:07:28 -0500 > > >From: jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx > > >To: dice@xxxxxxxxx > > >Subject: 2nd Battle of the Forth, Coalition roll > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > >User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 > > >X-Originating-IP: 164.83.99.83 > > > > > >#P eia@xxxxxxxxx > > >#S 6 > > >#D 1 > > >#R 2 > > >#L 1 > > >#C I & II Russian fleets with 14 ships > > >#C III British fleet with 5 ships > > >#C Total force of 19 ships > > >#C Wind guage is automatically lost > > >#C Roll is for combat with a British +1 > > >#T 2nd Battle of the Forth, Coalition roll > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFEFwY8ji3Dv2PP/ewRAi7pAKDC2esZXCiBniy1fi5kJLm6XXvimACgzlr6 > > cHXvsZTNUvfXVob0Qpz9ytU= > > =B1Wq > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > eia mailing list > > eia@xxxxxxxxx > > http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/eia > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > eia mailing list > eia@xxxxxxxxx > http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/eia > > _______________________________________________ > eia mailing list > eia@xxxxxxxxx > http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/eia > > _______________________________________________ eia mailing list eia@xxxxxxxxx http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/eia _______________________________________________ eia mailing list eia@xxxxxxxxx http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/eia