RE: [eia] Nelson/Napoleon

["Nate Ellefson" <nellefson@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Actually, my vote is that Turkey get 2PPs, because the rules say that
they do, but that I don't like it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Kyle H
> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:15 AM
> To: public list for an Empires in Arms game
> Subject: Re: [eia] Nelson/Napoleon 
> 
> 
>     Well, for now, it seems that there are 4 of 7 players 
> whose opinions are that allies should *not* share the 
> Napoleon/Nelson victory bonus (or defeat penalty).  (The 
> players who seem to share this view are Kyle, Mike, Danny, 
> and Nate.)  So I will tentatively give Turkey 1 PP for the 
> battle.  If I have misidentifed anyone's position on this 
> issue, then please feel free to clarify.
>     BTW, I will be gone for the rest of the day.  If the 
> Spanish naval phase comes in today, I won't get to see it 
> until tomorrow (Monday).
> 
> kdh
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nate Ellefson" <nellefson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'public list for an Empires in Arms game'" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 1:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [eia] Nelson/Napoleon
> 
> 
> > > I had always taken PP to be an aggregate of factors external and 
> > > internal; I don't see them as solely outward-facing.
> >
> > I don't think the foreign commander bonus makes sense internally, 
> > either.  If anything, government and the press tend to 
> create national 
> > heroes and emphasize the ways in which they contributed to 
> the overall 
> > success, often downplaying the accomplishments of a foreign 
> commander 
> > who happens to be in supreme command.  I think jealousy tends to be 
> > the more typical result.  In WWII the British went to great 
> lenghts to 
> > glorify the largely undeserving Montgomery to salve their national 
> > pride.  In WWI the hero in the US was Pershing, but he was by no 
> > stretch of the imagination one of the archetects of the Entante's 
> > victory.
> >
> > I'm going well beyond the scope of what is probably appropriate for 
> > discussion in the public board, so maybe Joel and I should continue 
> > this thread in private. :)
> >
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