Re: [eia] Nelson/Napoleon

["Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxx>]

    Well, for now, it seems that there are 4 of 7 players whose opinions are
that allies should *not* share the Napoleon/Nelson victory bonus (or defeat
penalty).  (The players who seem to share this view are Kyle, Mike, Danny,
and Nate.)  So I will tentatively give Turkey 1 PP for the battle.  If I
have misidentifed anyone's position on this issue, then please feel free to
clarify.
    BTW, I will be gone for the rest of the day.  If the Spanish naval phase
comes in today, I won't get to see it until tomorrow (Monday).

kdh

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nate Ellefson" <nellefson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'public list for an Empires in Arms game'" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 1:48 PM
Subject: RE: [eia] Nelson/Napoleon


> > I had always taken PP to be an aggregate of factors external
> > and internal;
> > I don't see them as solely outward-facing.
>
> I don't think the foreign commander bonus makes sense internally,
> either.  If anything, government and the press tend to create national
> heroes and emphasize the ways in which they contributed to the overall
> success, often downplaying the accomplishments of a foreign commander
> who happens to be in supreme command.  I think jealousy tends to be the
> more typical result.  In WWII the British went to great lenghts to
> glorify the largely undeserving Montgomery to salve their national
> pride.  In WWI the hero in the US was Pershing, but he was by no stretch
> of the imagination one of the archetects of the Entante's victory.
>
> I'm going well beyond the scope of what is probably appropriate for
> discussion in the public board, so maybe Joel and I should continue this
> thread in private. :)
>
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