Re: [eia] Nelson/Napoleon

["Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxx>]

    Well, the rule you are referring to is one we have changed.  So I'm not
sure why the wording of that rule should be the determining factor.  But I'm
tired of arguing that I should get fewer PPs, so I'll just accept it and
move on.  :-)

kdh

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nate Ellefson" <nellefson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'public list for an Empires in Arms game'" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [eia] Nelson/Napoleon


> Actually, my vote is that Turkey get 2PPs, because the rules say that
> they do, but that I don't like it.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Kyle H
> > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:15 AM
> > To: public list for an Empires in Arms game
> > Subject: Re: [eia] Nelson/Napoleon
> >
> >
> >     Well, for now, it seems that there are 4 of 7 players
> > whose opinions are that allies should *not* share the
> > Napoleon/Nelson victory bonus (or defeat penalty).  (The
> > players who seem to share this view are Kyle, Mike, Danny,
> > and Nate.)  So I will tentatively give Turkey 1 PP for the
> > battle.  If I have misidentifed anyone's position on this
> > issue, then please feel free to clarify.
> >     BTW, I will be gone for the rest of the day.  If the
> > Spanish naval phase comes in today, I won't get to see it
> > until tomorrow (Monday).
> >
> > kdh
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Nate Ellefson" <nellefson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "'public list for an Empires in Arms game'" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 1:48 PM
> > Subject: RE: [eia] Nelson/Napoleon
> >
> >
> > > > I had always taken PP to be an aggregate of factors external and
> > > > internal; I don't see them as solely outward-facing.
> > >
> > > I don't think the foreign commander bonus makes sense internally,
> > > either.  If anything, government and the press tend to
> > create national
> > > heroes and emphasize the ways in which they contributed to
> > the overall
> > > success, often downplaying the accomplishments of a foreign
> > commander
> > > who happens to be in supreme command.  I think jealousy tends to be
> > > the more typical result.  In WWII the British went to great
> > lenghts to
> > > glorify the largely undeserving Montgomery to salve their national
> > > pride.  In WWI the hero in the US was Pershing, but he was by no
> > > stretch of the imagination one of the archetects of the Entante's
> > > victory.
> > >
> > > I'm going well beyond the scope of what is probably appropriate for
> > > discussion in the public board, so maybe Joel and I should continue
> > > this thread in private. :)
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