Re: [eia] now we must decide

[Jerald Jeffrey Young (CPS - Personal) <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm worried that our 2 choices are either a 4-3 vote in favor of repatriation 
(which makes all of us somewhat unhappy), or a 4-3 vote in favor of limited 
access with at least restriction #2 below, and possibly #3 and #4, as well 
(which will leave 3 of us very unhappy).  Which is the better choice ?

-JJY

Quoting Michael Gorman <mpgorman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> At 06:55 AM 10/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >Well, since it seems that we were going to apply the results of our 
> >current debate to the July turn, we cannot procede any farther until we 
> >have decided the following points:
> >
> >1.)  Repatriation or limited access ?
> >
> >2.)  If limited access, new factors allowed into FET or not ?
> >
> >3.)  If limited access, sieges allowed or not ?
> >
> >4.)  If sieges not allowed, any beligerrents allowed into FET cities or not
> ?
> >
> >To me, it seems unlikely that we'd have better than a 4-3 vote on any of 
> >these except repatriation.  For that reason alone, I support repatriation 
> >in the sake of agreement and moving on.
> >
> >-JJY
> 
> Since I haven't bothered saying much in this latest discussion, I'll put my 
> two cents in now.
> 
> 1)Limited access is better if we can figure out how it should work.  The 
> solution does not have to be perfect and seeking perfect solutions 
> impervious to abuse will mean we use repatriation as we are demanding a 
> standard that is unachievable for the limited access.
> 
> 2) I'd say yes to factors because it is simply too complicated to say 
> no.  The reinforcement supply rules just become too messy if we start 
> adding more and more criteria a supply line has to meet to use for 
> reinforcement and I'm inclined to keep it simple even if it means the 
> result is less desirable.
> 
> 3) Again, I'm going for yes.  It's obnoxious, but try as I might, I don't 
> see a way for the limitations on the limited access to be very stringent 
> without them falling apart completely.  There's also the fact that we have 
> to amend the land combat rules to allow restrictions on hostile nations 
> fighting.  And once we start rewriting in response to our rewrites, it just 
> keeps getting worse.
> 
> So, I've gone full circle to accepting that the only serious limitation on 
> the limited access is that you have to get out in a certain time period or 
> you lose the factors.  Also that you have the one instance where passing 
> through a country under an access agreement does not inherently give you 
> the right to pass back through the country later on under the same 
> terms.  However, I also expect that unless people really back away from the 
> various stances we currently have, repatriation is the only viable path 
> currently available.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
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