Re: [eia] now we must decide

[Michael Gorman <mpgorman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

At 06:55 AM 10/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> Well, since it seems that we were going to apply the results of our 
> current debate to the July turn, we cannot procede any farther until we 
> have decided the following points:
>
> 1.)  Repatriation or limited access ?
>
> 2.)  If limited access, new factors allowed into FET or not ?
>
> 3.)  If limited access, sieges allowed or not ?
>
> 4.)  If sieges not allowed, any beligerrents allowed into FET cities or not ?
>
> To me, it seems unlikely that we'd have better than a 4-3 vote on any of 
> these except repatriation.  For that reason alone, I support repatriation 
> in the sake of agreement and moving on.
>
> -JJY

Since I haven't bothered saying much in this latest discussion, I'll put my 
two cents in now.

1)Limited access is better if we can figure out how it should work.  The 
solution does not have to be perfect and seeking perfect solutions 
impervious to abuse will mean we use repatriation as we are demanding a 
standard that is unachievable for the limited access.

2) I'd say yes to factors because it is simply too complicated to say 
no.  The reinforcement supply rules just become too messy if we start 
adding more and more criteria a supply line has to meet to use for 
reinforcement and I'm inclined to keep it simple even if it means the 
result is less desirable.

3) Again, I'm going for yes.  It's obnoxious, but try as I might, I don't 
see a way for the limitations on the limited access to be very stringent 
without them falling apart completely.  There's also the fact that we have 
to amend the land combat rules to allow restrictions on hostile nations 
fighting.  And once we start rewriting in response to our rewrites, it just 
keeps getting worse.

So, I've gone full circle to accepting that the only serious limitation on 
the limited access is that you have to get out in a certain time period or 
you lose the factors.  Also that you have the one instance where passing 
through a country under an access agreement does not inherently give you 
the right to pass back through the country later on under the same 
terms.  However, I also expect that unless people really back away from the 
various stances we currently have, repatriation is the only viable path 
currently available.

Mike



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