Re: [eia] [escrow] July 1807 Political Orders

["J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

The reason I had for prefering the GB-Prussia pair (which may be flimsy), is
that GB _tried_ to combine movement with Austria, while Austria did not try
with GB.  In my mind, this gave GB a slight precedence over Austria for
combining with Prussia, the British having tried for a combination of all
three.  But I understand this is a tenuous interpretation and have no
problem if the majority disagrees.

-JJY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [eia] [escrow] July 1807 Political Orders


>     So let's see here.  Below I am putting together a matrix of combined
> movement requests to help me sort out who was successful and who wasn't.
It
> seems clear to me that no one can successfully combine with Turkey, since
> Turkey didn't offer to combine with anyone.  So I will leave Turkey out of
> the matrix.
>
> (Country)       A   GB   P
> Austria asks:                X
> Britain asks:    X          X
> Prussia asks:   X    X
>
>     At first glance, it looks like Austria and Prussia successfully
combine
> and Prussia and Britain successfully combine.  But if we say both of those
> things, then we are effectively saying that Britain, Austria, and Prussia
> all three successfully combined, and that is clearly *not* the case
(because
> Austria did not offer to combine with Britain).
>     So, one important constraint on our resolution of this issue is that
it
> cannot be the case that all three of Britain, Austria, and Prussia have
> successfully combined movement.  The implication of this constraint is
that,
> at most, only one pair (GB & Prussia) or (Austria & Prussia) can have
> combined movement.
>     Here's where I'm having trouble.  I can't see any reason to prefer one
> of these two combinations over the other.  Can anyone else see any such
> reason?  Because in the absence of a reason to prefer one combination over
> the other, the only fair thing to say is that *no one* successfully
combines
> movement.  (At least that's the way it seems to me.)
>
>     However, I'm willing to be convinced that I'm looking at this the
wrong
> way...  Anybody have an alternative suggestion (or a reason to prefer one
> combination over the other)?
>
> kdh
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:14 PM
> Subject: [eia] [escrow] July 1807 Political Orders
>
>
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> > Escrow opened: Sat 20 Sep 2003 19:23:46
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> >
> > -- BEGIN MESSAGES --
> >
> > From: austria@xxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Thu 02 Oct 2003 05:48:17
> >
> >
> >
> > C Call to allies:N/A
> > D Peace: sues for peace from Russia
> > E Create Alliance: none
> > F Minor Country Control: N/A
> > G Breaking Alliance: none
> > H. Free State Declaration:  none
> > I.Combined Movement: with Prussia and Turkey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: britain@xxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Sat 20 Sep 2003 20:56:23
> >
> >
> > No calls to allies.
> > Britain stands ready to accept France's surrender.
> > Britain ends its alliance with any power which allies with France.
> > No new free states.
> > Britain offers combined movement to Austria and Prussia.
> >
> > Rule Britannia !
> > -JJY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: france@xxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Mon 29 Sep 2003 20:25:01
> >
> > >
> >
> > France is willing to accept a conditional surrender from Spain if it is
> > offered.
> > Nothing else of interest.
> >
> > kdh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: prussia@xxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Thu 02 Oct 2003 20:14:20
> >
> > July 1807
> >
> > DIPLOMACY..............none
> > DoW....................done
> > CALL TO ALLIES.........none
> > PEACE STEP.............Prussia will agree to an informal peace if it
> > includes Austria
> > ALLIANCES CREATED......none
> > MINOR COUNTRY CONTROL..none
> > ALLIANCES BROKEN.......none
> > FREE STATES DECLARED...none
> > COMBINED MOVEMENT......Great Britain, Austria
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: russia@xxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Wed 01 Oct 2003 00:22:21
> >
> > Russia initiates nothing but will accept a conditional surrender from
> > Austria or Prussia if offered.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: spain@xxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Wed 01 Oct 2003 02:22:28
> >
> >
> > Call to Allies - none
> > Peace - Spain sues France for peace and is willing to accept a
conditional
> > surrender.  Spain picks A.2.
> > Create Alliance - none
> > Break Alliance - none
> > Free State - none
> > Combined Movement - none
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: turkey@xxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Sat 27 Sep 2003 20:10:31
> >
> >
> > None.
> >
> > --
> > J.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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