RE: [eia] Austrian Land Phase

[Danny Mount <mount.23@xxxxxxx>]

For all purposes, this movement was during the time-period that Spain was in
"Limbo" between its past and present owner.  I suppose if I announced that
Austria had access to Lombardy then it was because an agreement had already
been made in the past with the former owner of Spain and I felt like I
needed to honor what pact had already been made.

As for now, if it means to JJ that Spain is altering anything then I guess
that is the case.  But I state again that my intention was for Spain's
homeland to be the access, so I do not see it as an alteration.

Danny

-----Original Message-----
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J.J. Young
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:56 PM
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Subject: Fw: [eia] Austrian Land Phase


Actually, I have now found an example where Austria moved troops into and
through Lombardy (which was then Spanish-controlled) in April of 1805.  The
relevant corps moved from Turin ---> Milan ---> Mantua.  Austria apparently
felt at the time that they had access to move through Spanish territory
outside of the home nation.  Spain made no objection at the time.  So what I
want to know is, was the Spanish access statement of May, '05 intended to
_scale_back_ some of the access that had existed previously ?  In other
words, that the allies who had previously had access to all
Spanish-controlled territories, now only had access to the home nation ?  I
find it hard to get this from "Spain grants unlimited access".

I know I'm badgering, and I'm sorry.  My only point is that it's impossible,
from my perspective, that this is a misunderstanding.  Of course Spain has
the right to change its access agreements as it chooses, within the rules.
But I am firmly convinced that Great Britain has had access to Languedoc up
until now, and if Spain wants to alter this, then it is a new change which
they must decide upon _now_, in May of 1807.

-JJY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Everett E. Proctor" <spiritmast@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "EiA List" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 2:46 AM
Subject: [eia] Austrian Land Phase


> The battered remains of the Austrian army move thusly:
>
> I at Eszek => Peterwardein . (A)
> I at Trieste => Gratz => ne (ending between Ofen and Vienna) (A)
> I at Trieste leaves 1 garrison factor => Gratz => Vienna, dropping off 1
additional garrison factor (for a total of 6)  (A)
> I with John at Linz => Vienna (A)
> I at Salzberg leaves 1 garrison factor => Linz, leaves 1 garrison factor
=> Vienna (.5)
> C at Venice => Trieste => Gratz => Vienna (.5)
> C w/Charles at Turin => Milan => e => Mantua => Venice (A)
> C at Turin => Milan => e => Mantua => Venice (A)
> I at Turin => Milan => e => Mantua (A)
> I at Turin => Milan, picking up garrison => e => Mantua (5-)
>
>
> Total cost:  $1
> Forage roll for Mantua I (5-) coming up.
> -
> Everett E. Proctor <spiritmast@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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