Re: [eia] rewriting 12.4

[Michael Gorman <mpgorman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> > Something else which needs to be considered: It shouldn't be necessary to
> > exit a major power into someplace you control. It should also be possible
> > to exit a major power with whom you just made peace by entering a major
> > power you're at war with.
>
> So if France were, say, at war with Prussia and Russia, and French forces
> were one province into Prussia when a Franco-Prussian peace is made, would
> the French forces then be able to cross through all the rest of Prussia in
> order to invade Russia ?
>
> -JJY
I would say they could, but forces not in Prussia at the time of peace 
could not.  So as long as France was willing to fight the war with just the 
available forces and without reliable supply lines, they'd be 
fine.  Otherwise, they'd need Prussian permission.

The one component of Joel's proposal that wasn't going to be in the one I 
was putting together is allowing corps to enter to collect 
garrisons.  Otherwise, as long as there were French garrisons scattered 
about, they could pass all the forces they wanted in Prussia in JJ's example.

I would make the access apply to forces in the major power peace was made 
with at the time of peace, but before peace terms were applied, thus 
avoiding stranding forces in areas under control after the peace terms, but 
forces not in the other major power's territory could not enter that 
territory without permission.  This would require either turning garrisons 
into corps so they could move themselves or picking them up with corps 
already in the major power you just made peace with or getting the power's 
permission to enter.

The exception would be fleets which could enter a port to pick up a corps 
at the city so long as the access time limits were met.  We could apply a 
physically possible clause similar to that in declaring war on a minor to 
determine if a fleet could enter a port.  If it is possible for a corps to 
get to that city during the land phase so it can be shipped out the 
following naval phase, then the fleet can enter the port.  This way both 
could arrive in one month and depart the following month.  Otherwise it 
would take three months to take a ship out.  Month 1, corp arrives, month 
2, fleet enters, month 3, fleet and corps leaves.

For departure, I was going to do things the same way Joel did, that you can 
go out through any nation you have access to and once departed, you cannot 
re-enter without permission.  A nation you are at war with or a neutral 
minor nation would both constitute cases of access.

There would remain some ability to mess with a nation you made peace with, 
but that will always be the case if we make the troops walk out rather than 
just have them vanish and reappear at the border.



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