J.J. Young on 29 Mar 2003 14:48:01 -0000 |
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Re: [eia] fixing the political phase |
Unless there are problems with this procedure which I can't see (and which others will probably point out), it sounds fine to me. -JJY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 9:43 AM Subject: [eia] fixing the political phase > Everett wrote: > > I think that makes more sense, and the game was obviously designed so > > that everyone would know who as at war with who when those later steps > > came around, and I would prefer to keep it that way. The rules go out > > of their way to explain how the *declaration of war* is supposed to be > > secret and simultaneous, not the entire political phase. In fact, much > > of it doesn't make sense to be in the escrow: Call to Allies, the Peace > > Step, Minor Country Control. 3 out of the 7 steps after declaration of > > war, by necessity, *must* be retroactively changeable, so it seems > > simpler, and logical to allow all the steps after the Declaration of War > > step to be so. > > > > There is definitely some merit to what you're saying. And as you may > recall, I was initially in favor of having 2 political phase escrows > (Political Phase A and Political Phase B) for much the same reasons. > However, without having a concrete proposal to consider, it is impossible to > decide whether what you are suggesting is better than our current practice > (which is far from perfect). I think we would all agree that if your > proposal required us to go through each step of the political phase > individually, that would not be an improvement on our current system just > because it would take far too long. So let's see if we can't come up with > an alternative that preserves some of the original intent of the rules at a > minimum cost in extra time. > > First of all, let's recognize the value of simultaneity. Resolving > steps simultaneously cuts down on the gamesmanship involved in waiting to > see what others do before committing yourself. If everyone goes at once, > then that helps to move things along. I conclude that simultaneity is a > good thing wherever you can get it. > > It seems to me that the Declaration of War step is perhaps the most > crucial step in the Political Phase. And I think Everett is right that much > of what happens afterward depends on knowledge of its outcome. For that > reason, I think it should have its own escrow. Now, here's the question: > would there be any harm in combining the rest of the Political Phase into > one escrow? > > Here's how I think we ought to deal with Political Phases from now on. > > 1.) First, we send out an escrow just for Declarations of War. (This > should not take very long as there is only one thing to decide.) > 2.) When that is revealed, we immediately resolve Calls to Allies (if > necessary). This could be done either in a sequence or with a separate > escrow. But in either case, it wouldn't come up very often at all. > 3.) Then we send out a separate Political Phase escrow that handles steps > D. through I. In this second escrow, people would sue for peace, state > which countries they wish to ally with, state which minor countries they'd > be willing to sponsor, state which alliances they wish to break, state which > minor countries become free states, and state which countries they'd be > willing to combine movement with. > 4.) When we see the results of that second escrow, we could roll for > control of minor countries (if necessary) and work out peace conditions (if > necessary). > > I think this is a relatively streamlined procedure that would not cost > us much in terms of time, but would make better sense out of the whole > political phase process. What do the rest of you think? > > kdh > > _______________________________________________ > eia mailing list > eia@xxxxxxxxx > http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/eia > > _______________________________________________ eia mailing list eia@xxxxxxxxx http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/eia