J.J. Young on 16 Dec 2002 02:14:01 -0000


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Re: [eia] Spanish I fleet orders?


I still think you should check with EiH about it, because I think that the
spirit of the rule is that France/GB give up their choice of when to go
altogether when combining movement with another power.

-JJY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Haidet" <menexenus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] Spanish I fleet orders?


> >Thus spake "J.J. Young":
> >> It would be great for me if GB could indeed choose whether or not to
move
> >> with her combined allies during the naval phase, but still get to move
with
> >> them in the land phase, but in my heart I don't believe it.  Kyle, I
> >> recommend that you consult the EiH bigwigs on this one.
> >>
> >> -JJY
> >
> >As I said, you'd get to decide where to insert Britain in the turn
> >sequence, but you'd still be moving with whoever among your allies is
> >moving last. So GB if GB and her allies are using combined movement, GB
can
> >decide when the Coalition will move in the Naval Phase (but still must
move
> >with them).
> >
> >--
> >J.
>
>    I think you've missed the point, JJ.  Joel is exactly right.  No matter
when France chooses to go in the land phase (or when GB chooses to go in the
naval phase) if it has accepted combined movement, it still must go with the
ally who would otherwise go last that turn.  So the only influence France
and GB have on their respective combined movements is whether they want to
go *later* in the turn than they already would go otherwise.
>    For instance, suppose this turn France had chosen to go last in the
land phase.  Then, since Russia would be first and France would be last,
Russia and France must both go last in the land phase (because they must go
together).  However, suppose GB announced that it would go first in the
naval phase.  Well, because it has accepted combined movement with Spain, it
would still be forced to go last (along with Spain).
>    You see?  France and GB still get their choice, even when they have
accepted combined movement, but that choice is still constrained by how late
their partners go.
>
> kdh
>
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