Everett E. Proctor on 28 Jul 2002 22:32:03 -0000

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[eia] Seige stuff

O.K., after spending a couple hours looking over the rules and
re-reading these posts, here is how I now think the rules are supposed
to work:

Movement :
When a corp enters a territory that contains an enemy corp, it must stop,
and must declare an attack.  That attack is declared at the end of all movement,
after foraging.  ( and 7.5.1)

When a corp enters a territory where an enemy corp is already in a city
from a previous turn, the moving corp must either "stop *and* besiege"
or continue movement.  It cannot stop but choose not to be part of the
siege. ( 

The phasing player must choose whether or not to use remaining movement
for foraging.  If any corp in the area chooses to use the movement, then
none of the corps may siege.  (  and 7.5.4)

Now comes the official declaration of attack.  The defender must choose
whether or not to retire into the city. (

If he chooses to retire, then the attackers choose to besiege or not
besiege.  They can only choose to siege if no corp used excess movement
for foraging.  And if they choose to siege, all of the corps must
participate in the siege.  (   and 7.5.4)

If they choose not to siege, then during the next month, according to
the movement rules above, they can choose to move on, or to stay and
siege, but they cannot choose to stay and not siege.  Therefore this
situation can last 1 month at max.

This results in no extra e-mails than we have been doing, and no needing
to go back and recalculate foraging.

Also, this results in there never being a situation where there is a
siege while there are also unsieging corp in the same territory.  This
solves J.J.'s problem with the port supply.

A corp that finds itself in a city, unbesieged, with enemy corp in the
same territory *could* move out into that territory, but then would have
to stop and declare an attack on those corp  (7.3.4)

The only problem left, is how to supply the corp in the city when it is
not being besieged.   I think technically by the rules, it should forage
off of the territory, including the minuses for other corp in the area.  
However, this could result in it being easier to starve a corp by not
besieging, and that doesn't sound right to me.  So I suggest that we
make it a house rule that in this rare case, that it can choose to be
supplied by the territory or be supplied by the city as if it was being

That's it.  My final word on this.  I swear  ;-)


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