Re: [s-d] [s-b] Proposal: Slow down ministry reward lowering

[Jay Campbell <bnomic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Per your mail, throw weekly reward resets into that mess too. Agreed 
that all parties need to be allowed in any bidding war.

This would all work if we went back to instant usurping. It's already 
allowed if a minister fails to perform duties that don't involve public 
display inaccuracies.




Jamie Dallaire wrote:
> Nice Proposal. I support it. 2 suggestions:
>
> 1 - perhaps that last modification should read "which must be less than its
> current reward and less than any reward proposed for this ministry by
> another usurper within the past 2 rdays". That's clunky, it can be better,
> of course. But the point is that if me and j were to get into a bidding war
> over Tyler's ministry, then he oculdn't lock me out of the contest or vice
> versa by just going straight to m20 lower. and maybe m10 limit would then
> slow down bidding wars too. "Proposed" reward has to be specified because
> just the usurp itself does not change the Reward till 2 rdays later.
>   

> 2 - while you're at modifying this rule, and while we're on the topic of
> bidding wars: ehird's attempt made me spot another flaw in this rule.
> Someone tried to usurp Tyler's ministry (j, I think?) with m75 reward.
> Before 2 ndays were up (Tyler had taken no action up to that point) ehird
> tried to usurp for m1 (he failed, though, lacking sufficient funds!). I
> think he did so during teh same nday, even. Thing is, had ehird succeeded
> and Tyler not put up a fight for his ministry the following would have
> happened 2 ndays later: first usurper gains control of ministry, paying
> Tyler m50 as compensation. Immediately after that, ehird gains control of
> said ministry, paying 1/2 of m75 (which is? might wanna put in a round
> mention too) to the first usurper as compensation. The first usurper got the
> shaft! Lost macks and couldn't retract his usurp after ehird had usurped,
> himself. So perhaps switch "If, 2 rdays after a Ministry is Usurped, that
> Ministry's Reward is still higher than the Reward proposed by the Usurping
> Legal Entity, the following events occur (in order from top to bottom, with
> each change only if the previous change was successful): " to "If, 2 rdays
> after a Ministry is Usurped, that Ministry's Reward is still higher than the
> Reward proposed by the Usurping Legal Entity, *and this proposed Reward is
> the lowest proposed for this Ministry by any Player within the past 2 rdays*,
> the following events occur (in order from top to bottom, with each change
> only if the previous change was successful): " Would automatically void
> usurp attempts that got outbid.
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Jay Campbell <bnomic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>   
>> I submit this Black Proposal:
>>
>> Change 4e48's second sentence "A Minister may, as a Game Action, Revise
>> the Reward Value of its Ministry, immediately changing it to a value
>> lower than the current Reward." to
>>
>> { A Minister may, as a Game Action, lower the Reward Value of its
>> Ministry by as much as m20. This action may only be taken  once per nday
>> per Ministry unless a different Legal Entity has proposed a lower
>> Ministry reward than the current one.}
>>
>> Replace in the next sentence "which must be less than its current
>> Reward" with
>>
>> { which must be up to m20 lower than its current Reward }
>>
>>
>>
>>
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