Craig Daniel on Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:29:46 -0700 (MST) |
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Re: [s-d] [s-b] Fixing the Game |
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 7:26 PM, James Baxter <jebaxter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > The CFI submitted in the message found at http://lists.ellipsis.cx/archives/spoon-business/spoon-business-201007/msg00119.html is > CFI 124. I assign CFI 124 to Judge teucer. This depends on the answer to 123a; as a judge, I am honor-bound to consider precedent, after all. However, I will judge it per the arguments in the recently attempted judgement of CFI 123a, which will presumably be reused to submit a properly-stated judgement at a not very much later date. Thus, the name in question did not uniquely identify the player currently known as Gitchel at the time the CFI was submitted. This should make the statement trivially FALSE but for two caveats: One, if "unique" means "no other is like it" rather than "nobody else has it too." As I believe names are things possessed by entities, and are created by players joining, I do not believe this interpretation would render the CFI TRUE, but I mention it for completeness. If instead names are to be viewed as abstract strings, and we merely come to possess them, then all names are unique; at the time of the CFI two players happened to be using the same one. As the requirement of uniqueness would be vacuous in this instance, it is clear this is not what the ruleset writers intended, nor indeed is it what game custom indicates. Two, it is possible that the "my" in the statement could be taken to refer to whoever is stating something about it at the time. It would be erroneous for me to declare that, as of the submission of CFI 124, my name was not unique; I had several unique names at that time. However, this is unambiguously not the claimant's intent, and I believe that establishing a precedent that CFIs don't always say what you expect them to would, while certainly in keeping with B Nomic's rich history of excessive literal-mindedness (cf. ehird and various statements concerning retarded monkeys, as well as 1st era precedent that we are in fact all fucking nuts), be needlessly destructive and I'm not actually going to consider it correct for the sake of this CFI. FALSE. - teucer _______________________________________________ spoon-discuss mailing list spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/spoon-discuss