Re: [s-d] [s-b] Let's add some gameplay, shall we?

[Gabriel Vistica <gvistica@xxxxxxxxx>]

So how does a player move about? Should they do it by posting to the public 
forum?

Also, could you have the rule explicitly state that it refers to "the player 
compsciguy". I want to avoid problems with Rule 2.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Craig Daniel <teucer@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: spoon-business <spoon-business@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 9:45:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [s-b] Let's add some gameplay, shall we?
> 
> I submit the following proposal, entitled "Gosh, that guy sure does
> seem to  be somewhat fortunate, doesn't he?" ttPF:
> 
> {{
> [[Note: this version has  been edited from the unintentionally-proto;
> all changes are indicated by  comments. Also I'm going to summarize the
> gameplay in comments along the way  in this version, so people can
> follow in not-legalese.]]
> 
> Amend Rule 49  by adding the following sections:
>   {{
> B.9. Body Count
> 
> If at  any time a player's Body Count exceeds that of all other players
> by at least  two, that player is immediately awarded a win.
> 
> B.10. Failure
> 
> When  a player joins the game who has not been a player at any time
> during the past  two nweeks, that player gains 1d8 Failure points.
> Players may destroy their  own Failure points at any time.
> 
> A player whose Location did not change  during the previous Phase may
> gain one Failure point by announcement; gaining  Failure in this way
> more than once in a Phase is INEFFECTIVE.
>    }}
> 
> [[Removed redundant Body Count reset.]]
> 
> Set each player's  Failure to 1d8.
> 
> Amend Rule 3 by adding the following text to the  end:
>   {{
> A Phase is a unit of ntime shorter than the nweek but longer  than the
> nday. Phases begin at the start of every Mulberry, Joel, and  Zarpint,
> and each Phase ends the moment the next Phase begins. [[No new  phase
> begins on Breakday; there are three starting each nweek.]]
>    }}
> 
> Create a Rule entitled "The Minister of Crime":
>   {{
> The  Minister of Crime, also called the Victim, is a ministry. The
> Victim has no  duties and does not have an nweekly report, but CAN and
> SHOULD track changes  of Location, Failure, and Body Count on behalf of
> the Registra and update the  Wiki accordingly.
> 
> If the Victim forfeits the game or the ministry  otherwise becomes
> vacant, then the Minister of Default immediately also  becomes the
> Minister of Crime.
>   }}
> 
> [[Yeah, the proto forgot to  mention that it is in fact a ministry.
> While any sane judge would infer this,  I don't want to look for sane
> judges in B. Also, now there's a backup Victim;  it's the obvious
> choice for backup anyhow.]]
> 
> Make compsciguy the  Minister of Crime.
> 
> [[That's new. Thanks for volunteering,  compsciguy.]]
> 
> Create a Rule entitled "Location, Location, Location":
>    {{
> Locations are Attributes defined as Locations by the rules. No  player
> may have more than one Location at any given time. A player is said  to
> be "in" their Location. [[eg a player whose Location is the Piazza  is
> in the Piazza.]]
> 
> Each possible Location has associated with it a  number of other
> Locations to which players who have that Location can change  their
> Locations. Changing to a Location not on this list is INEFFECTIVE.
>    }}
> 
> Create a rule entitled "Movement":
>   {{
> Once per Phase, a  player MAY change their Location. Any time the
> Victim enters the same room as  another player, that player MAY change
> their Location an additional time  during that Phase.
> 
> The Victim CAN and MUST change their Location twice  during every
> Phase. The Victim MAY NOT change to a Location e was in during  that
> Phase or the previous one. [[eg if the Victim moves from  the
> Downstairs Hall to the Trophy Room, e MAY NOT move back to  the
> Downstairs Hall Hall and therefore MUST next move to the  Lancaster
> Room.]]
> 
> [[Or, in normal-person speak: we wander from  Location to Location; if
> we get a visit from the Victim, we get to move  around even more so
> that we can try to maneuver ourselves into a position to  Commit
> Attempted Murder. The Victim has to move to new places - all you  have
> to do to get a kill is exploit that fact.]]
>   }}
> 
> [[I gave the  Victim a little more freedom and simplified the rule in
> the process, while  keeping enough predictability that you can
> hopefully get your murder  on.]]
> 
> [[Wishlist for future proposals, item 1: the game this is all based  on
> has cards that let you move Doctor Lucky around to open up  more
> opportunities to kill him. Something along those lines might  be
> useful, though I do not wish to try to implement a card mechanic  and
> have gone to great lengths to avoid it. Perhaps we could move  the
> Victim by spending Failure? I dunno. But let's get used to  this
> version for a little while first, then tweak it.]]
> 
> Create a Rule  entitled "The Blueprint":
>   {{
> The following Locations  exist:
> 
> A. The Lancaster Room
> B. The Trophy Room
> C. The Drawing  Room
> D. The Foyer
> E. The Library
> F. The Patio
> G. The Piazza
> H.  The Hedge Maze
> I. The Winter Garden
> J. The Kitchen
> K. The Wine  Cellar
> L. The Dining Hall
> M. The Main Hall
> N. The Downstairs Hall
> O.  The Upstairs Hall
> P. The Master Suite
> Q. The Armory
> R. The Servants'  Quarters
> S. The White Room
> T. The Greenhouse
> U. The Nursery
> V. The  Lilac Room
> W. The Tennessee Room
> X. The Billiard Room
> Y. The Sitting  Room
> Z. The Parlor
> *. The Carriage House
> 
> Passages and Peepholes are  ordered pairs of Locations defined as such
> by the rules.  Neither of  these is necessarily symmetric.
> 
> A player who is otherwise allowed to  change their Location can change
> their Location to a specific value if and  only if their old and new
> Locations (in that order) are a Passage.
> 
> A  player cannot Commit Attempted Murder if eir Location and any other
> player's  Location (in that order) are a Peephole.
> 
> The following Passages  exist:
> 
> (A,B) (A,H) (A,J) (A,N)
> (B,A) (B,C) (B,N)
> (C,D) (C,H)  (C,M)
> (D,C) (D,E) (D,M) (D,G) (D,H)
> (E,D) (E,M) (E,F)
> (F,M) (F,G)  (F,E)
> (G,F) (G,H) (G,D)
> (H,A) (H,C) (H,G) (H,I) (H,D)
> (I,H)  (I,J)
> (J,A) (J,I) (J,K) (J,N)
> (K,J) (K,*)
> (L,M) (L,N) (L,*)
> (M,C)  (M,D) (M,E) (M,F) (M,N) (M,Z)
> (N,A) (N,B) (N,J) (N,L) (N,M) (N,O)
> (O,P)  (O,R) (O,S) (O,U) (O,V) (O,Z) (O,N)
> (P,O) (P,Q)
> (Q,P) (Q,R)
> (R,O) (R,Q)  (R,S)
> (S,O) (S,R) (S,T)
> (T,S) (T,U)
> (U,O) (U,T) (U,V) (U,X)
> (V,O)  (V,U) (V,W)
> (W,V) (W,X)
> (X,W) (X,Y) (X,Z) (X,U)
> (Y,X) (Y,Z)
> (Z,O)  (Z,X) (Z,Y) (Z,M)
> (*,K) (*,L)
> 
> The following Peepholes  exist:
> 
> (A,B) (A,H) (A,J) (A,N) (A,A)
> (B,A) (B,C) (B,N) (B,B)  (B,J)
> (C,D) (C,H) (C,M) (C,C) (C,E) (C,F)
> (D,C) (D,E) (D,M) (D,D)
> (E,D)  (E,M) (E,E)
> (F,C) (F,M) (F,F) (F,G)
> (G,F) (G,H) (G,G)
> (H,A) (H,C) (H,G)  (H,I) (H,H)
> (I,H) (I,J) (I,I) (I,K)
> (J,A) (J,I) (J,K) (J,N) (J,B)  (J,J)
> (K,J) (K,*) (K,I) (K,K) (K,L)
> (L,M) (L,N) (L,*) (L,B) (L,K)  (L,L)
> (M,C) (M,D) (M,E) (M,F) (M,N) (M,M)
> (N,A) (N,B) (N,J) (N,L) (N,M)  (N,N)
> (O,P) (O,R) (O,S) (O,U) (O,V) (O,Z) (O,O)
> (P,O) (P,Q) (P,P) (P,R)  (P,V)
> (Q,P) (Q,R) (Q,Q)
> (R,O) (R,Q) (R,S) (R,P) (R,R) (R,T)
> (S,O) (S,R)  (S,T) (S,S)
> (T,S) (T,U) (T,R) (T,T)
> (U,O) (U,T) (U,V) (U,U)
> (V,O) (V,U)  (V,W) (V,P) (V,V)
> (W,V) (W,X) (W,W)
> (X,W) (X,Y) (X,Z) (X,X)
> (Y,X) (Y,Z)  (Y,Y)
> (Z,O) (Z,X) (Z,Y) (Z,Z)
> (*,K) (*,L) (*,*)
> 
> [[Peepholes without  Passages are at the ends of their rows on the
> Peephole list and vice versa;  otherwise they are alphabetized. Every
> Location currently has a Peephole to  itself. Also, all current
> Passages and Peepholes are symmetric except for  (B,C). Passages
> without Peepholes are rare.]]
>   }}
> 
> [[The above  is refactored in a way that is less formatting trouble
> than Murphy's but  basically per his suggestion. The list has been
> edited slightly because the  refactoring called my attention to some
> unintended asymmetries. Also, the  restrictions that go at the end of
> the refactored version, I decided are  fussy but not in a way that's
> worth it. Ergo, they are  gone.]]
> 
> [[Wishlist item 2: Let's make this map our own, shall we? The  strength
> of Nomic is its editability; there's no good reason for  this
> shamelessly ripped off map to last. Also, I want more  creative
> locations. the Altar To Some Dark Forgotten God, Here There  Be
> Dragons, the Outhouse, and so forth.]]
> 
> Put all players in the Foyer  except the Victim. Put the Victim in the
> Drawing Room.
> 
> Create a new  rule entitled "Murder Most Foul":
>   {{
> Players who are in the same  Location as the Victim CAN and MAY Commit
> Attempted Murder by announcement,  unless a rule indicates otherwise.
> 
> [[Basically: the two of you have to be  away from prying eyes, where
> the closeness of witnesses is defined by the  list of locations.]]
> 
> No player may Commit Attempted Murder during a Phase  in which they
> have already gained Failure or Committed Attempted Murder.  [[Give the
> Victim a breather.]]
> 
> Two ndays after a player Commits  Attempted Murder, if the sum of eir
> Failure and the Victim's Failure is less  than the number of Failure
> points destroyed during that two-nday period, the  player who Committed
> Attempted Murder gains one Failure. Otherwise, the  following events
> occur, in order:
> 
> 1. That player's Body Count  increases by one.
> 2. That player becomes the Victim.
> 3. All players except  the Victim are placed in the Foyer.
> 4. All players who have destroyed any of  their Failure points in the
> past nweek have their Failure set to 1d8.
>    }}
> 
> [[The restriction on other players being in the room with you is  gone
> - because, instead, it's part of the location list.]]
> 
> Amend Rule  79 by adding the following to the LOGAS:
>   {{
> Attempting IMPOSSIBLE  changes of Location [[as it causes headaches for
> the Registrar]]
>    }}
> }}
> 
> I transfer one point each to compsciguy and Murphy for  assistance with
> this proposal. (The latest Registrar's report shows me at -2,  but I
> believe I have received five since then and thus have three to  give
> away.)
> 
>  -  teucer
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