M P Darke on Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:56:49 -0700 (MST)


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Re: [s-d] [s-b] [Oracle] CFI 111


TRUE

FOR THE RECORD:

Original inquiry:
   I call for inquiry on the following statement: "A Refresh Proposal can cause a Rule Change."
Reasoning:
   See Arguments, Gratuitous Arguments. Also, if ordinary Proposals are broken, it is necessary to have some
way of changing the rules, and currently, RPs seem to be the only other
method of doing this.
Arguments:
   There is no definition of taking effect, so the ordinary definition of taking affect applies to Refresh Proposals, which means that they go and change the game state. However, there is no explicit text indicating that Refresh Proposals change the rules, and so Rule 22 may prevent them from changing the rules. While it is clear that the Refresh Proposal made sure that it is David, I do not know whether the Refresh Proposal amended Rule 10.
Gratuitous Arguments:
   Refresh proposals take effect, that means that if they say they change the rules then that is included in their taking effect ("take effect" is subject to interpretation using its normal definition). This means that rule changes are implicit in the words "take effect" and so work as Rule 22 allows implicit permission of rule changes ("Changing the Rules is permitted only as explicitly or implicitly described by a Rule..."). It should also be noted that the most recent refresh proposal attempted to modify Rule 3, not Rule 10.
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