Re: [s-d] [s-b] oh come on

[Jamie Dallaire <bad.leprechaun@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:05 PM, 0x44 <bnomic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Elliott Hird wrote:
>
>> 17:47 < _0x44> Points of Order are not Game Documents, they are game
>> documents.
>>
>> Consultation: {game documents are distinct from Game Documents}
>> Arguments: No, just no.
>>
> Argument: If post-Proposal 0585 Rule 0 game documents are Game Documents,
> and Rule 0 explicitly claims precedence over all other Rules, Rule 5e7
> cannot define Game Documents. So, either game documents are distinct from
> Game Documents, or Proposal 0585 destroys all Rules.


Unless I'm missing something, this line of reasoning is just plain silly.
Let's evaluate 585 on its own (other merits).

Post-585 Rule 0 would specify that PoOs are g(G)ame d(D)ocuments. This does
not constitute an exclusive definition that would prevent the
lower-precedence Rule 7 from defining Game Documents!

"any number of Points of Order which are game documents detailing a single
change to the Rules or Game State of B."

If one Rule says that Socrates is a man, and another says that a man is
defined as an adult male human (add any gender theory variation to this
definition that you want...), this does not constitute a CONFLICT between
these two rules. Therefore, there is no issue of precedence. Saying that
Socrates is a man in no way excludes other entities from being men.

So the big g little g issue is inconsequential except with regard to some
characteristics of PoOs that might be regulated by Rule 7.

Note that I think it would be a better idea to keep Rule 0 modular and
independent of definitions in other Rules, i.e. not to call PoOs Game
Documents (in the Rule 7 sense, which to me encompasses game documents
(uncapitalized)). That would prevent a break in Rule 7 from ruining Rule 0.
THAT might make me vote against 585, not a fear of Rule 0 ruining the
others.

BP
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