Elliott Hird on Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:21:06 -0700 (MST)


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you just destroyed the game


On 07/01/2009, Alex Smith <ais523@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> [Resending. It seems that spoon-business@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx isn't a PF for
> anything...]
>
> On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 10:56 -0500, comex wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Elliott Hird
>> <penguinofthegods@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > I don't deny that 5E10 is an awkward heap of trivia, BTW, but I
> think we
>> > should leave cleaning it up to the proposal process incrementally to
> avoid
>> > breaking things. And because it's not a crisis (not that any of the
> "crises"
>> > we're in Emergency for really are, but oh well.)
>>
>> Things are already broken about as much as possible tbh, as Rule 5E10
>> allows anyone to perform any game action-- I haven't seen any
>> arguments against this, though feel free to supply one.  (C Nomic
>> doesn't count because that scam failed for other reasons, as
>> mentioned.)  If this is indeed the case, the gamestate is totally
>> undefined.
>>
>> Rule 5E10 just needs to be rewritten.  First, the redefinition of a
>> Game Action as just about anything makes no sense and has caused a
>> great deal of scamming and confusion.  I have not been able to
>> ascertain what the point of that was.  Second, it should be worded
>> such that it's not granting authorization on its own authority to
>> otherwise invalid Game Actions-- and no, I don't mean sticking a
>> paragraph to that effect at the end.
>
> I repeal Rule 5e10. [[To stop other people using it for a
> dictatorship.]]
>
> I change "persons" to "persons except ais523" in rule 5e3333, then
> renumber rule 5e3333 to rule 5e-1. [[Exploiting a bug in comex's scam,
> which is the precedence rules. Again, I'm exploiting this before anyone
> else does; the dictatorship here is Normish-style, i.e. I'll use it only
> to prevent the game being destroyed, and only as a last resort, and not
> for personal gain.]]
>
> There are lots of reasons why this might fail (for instance, I might not
> have a dictatorship). However, in the particular combination of
> circumstances in which it works, I think it's badly needed.
>
> --
> ais523
>
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