Antonio Dolcetta on Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:19:27 +0100 (CET)


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Re: [s-d] [s-b] My votes (finally!)


This is an interesting idea.
If I may give a suggestion, here is how I would try to handle it, feel 
free to formally propose this or just ignore it:

associate to each Minister an agenda,  that is a big book containing Issues
Issues are the orders you want to give to the minister
make it so that agendas contain Issues
make it so that new issues can be created by proposal or maybe with n 
support, and are removed once executed
make it so that the ministers receive a fat bonus for executing Issues

what do you think ?


Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> I don't think it's necessary to use a self-repealing rule; it should
> in principle be possible for a passed proposal to order someone to
> take an action.
>
> I'm on the fence about whether p177 should be interpreted to create an
> obligation.  Not only could the wording itself be a problem, but
> there's also the issue that proposals take effect at an instant when,
> IMO, all offices are vacant.  There is no Ambassador at the instant
> the proposal's effects happen, so ordering the Ambassador to do
> something might be impossible.
>
> Of course, we could use common sense and make the incoming Ambassador
> take any actions demanded of the office while it was vacant, but it's
> probably best for such a mechanism to be explicit.
>
> On Nov 14, 2007 11:44 AM, Mike McGann <mike.mcgann@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>   
>> On Nov 14, 2007 11:29 AM, Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> 177: Proper Notification (Hose)
>>> Against. Proposals that use "shall" like this have no effect.
>>>       
>> Are you saying that since it doesn't change any game state, the net
>> result of this passing would be nothing? I guess the correct way would
>> have been to create a rule that self-repealed after doing what was
>> intended? But then again, I don't think there is anything preventing
>> the Ambassador from doing it anyway.
>>
>> - Hose
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