Re: [s-d] Re: [s-b] [auto] BvS amends p28

[eugman@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Well I suppose as long as  there is no way to coerce someone into staying a memeber there is no problem. I meant the former . I must have missed  the part where you took care of that. Everything looks good.  The only quibble left is whether this is a general definition or not. But I really am fine either way. You've got my vote congressperson.  


> On 4/27/05, eugman@xxxxxxxxxxx <eugman@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> > 
> > You might meant to make sure it's clear parties may influence but not 
> > force it's members to do things. I've read on nomic wiki about the mousetrap 
> > scam a little bit so you can understand why I'm apprehensive.
> 
>  If the Party's demands are too out there, the member is welcome to quit at 
> any time, and their right to quit is protected by the rule that defines 
> Parties. That prevents such scams from working with this system. But if a 
> Party can't force its members to do something, then there's no reason for it 
> to even have its rules, and the system will be pointless.
> 
> Also read about zarpint's tax refuge.
> > http://www.bnomic.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZarpintsTaxShelter
> > Maybe if parties can only exist with one person as a member for only a few 
> > days.
> 
>  I'm not sure what your last sentence means - are you suggesting that 
> Parties should be allowed to survive with only one member for a few days 
> (which they are), or that even that is too risky? If it's the former, then 
> there's no problem, and if it's the latter... I suppose someone could create 
> a temporary tax shelter this way, but only if Parties could hold stuff, 
> which they can't. The Party itself isn't tangible. It can't own objects, 
> unlike Societies, which could.
>  [[BvS]]
> 
> > BvS has amended p28.
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Proposal 28/1: Boxes Within Boxes
> > > A Standard Proposal by BvS
> > > Last modified on nweek 86, nday 8
> > >
> > > Create a new section of the Ruleset named "Generic Definitions" with the
> > > following rule in it:
> > >
> > > {{
> > > == Political Parties ==
> > >
> > > There exist organizations called Political Parties, or Parties. A Player 
> > of B
> > > Nomic may not be a member of more than one Political Party at any given 
> > time.
> > > Each Party must have a uniquely identifying name.
> > >
> > > Each Political Party must have a Platform. A Party's Platform is a Game 
> > Document
> > > laying out the set of beliefs that members of that Party hold [[such as 
> > what
> > > should be legal in the Game, what the direction of the Game should be, 
> > how the
> > > Game should be played, etc.]]. The purpose of a Party's existence is the
> > > promotion of these beliefs.
> > >
> > > Each Political Party must have a Chair, who is a member of that Party. 
> > The Chair
> > > of a Party is the leader of that Party, responsible for representing the 
> > Party's
> > > interests in debate (when appropriate) and creating a list each nweek of 
> > which
> > > proposals on the Ballot for that nweek are supported or opposed by eir 
> > Party.
> > > Parties may also have no stance on a proposal [[and it is suggested that 
> > Parties
> > > exercise this option rather than simply opposing props they don't 
> > support, to
> > > prevent partisanship from freezing the Game]]. Each Party's list, known 
> > as that
> > > Party's Line, must be sent before voting begins each nweek, to all 
> > members of
> > > that Party at a minimum. [[It is requested but not required that Party 
> > Chairs
> > > post their Party Line in a public forum.]]
> > >
> > > A Player who is not a member of any Party may create a new Party by 
> > posting its
> > > name and Platform in a public forum. That player becomes the new Party's 
> > Chair.
> > > If at any time there have been fewer than two members of a Party for 
> > more than
> > > three ndays, the Party is disbanded. A Player may leave their Party at 
> > any time
> > > by stating their intention to leave in a public forum. No restriction 
> > may be
> > > placed on a Player's ability to leave their Party.
> > >
> > > Each Political Party is responsible for establishing its own internal 
> > rules
> > > regarding the selection of Chairs, modification of its Platform, 
> > requirements
> > > for joining (if any), conformity to the Party Line, and internal 
> > positions other
> > > than Chair, as well as any other rules the Party's members wish. A 
> > Party's
> > > internal rules and workings may not directly influence the Gamestate or 
> > any
> > > Player who is not a member of that Party, but may directly influence the 
> > members
> > > of the Party.
> > > }}
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