Re: [s-d] Re: Emergency?

["Martin R Crowther" <cybersanctuary@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Having read quickly through these rules I have to admit Wonko's is the 
cleanest, most up-to-date, and closest to the present rules set.

Tuecers and Zarpints seem to a 'tidied' version of whatever set of rules was 
present at the time they were written. And Glotmorfs, I like, but it would 
be like playing a completely new Nomic (although I'm sure that was the 
point). As we are *still* playing BNomic I'd vote to reset (?!) the current 
rules.

How long have your rules been up there? I'm sure I had looked through them 
long before joining. Maybe I just read through the first few and decided 
they were all too similar, I assume this to be the case because I notice 
comments from players who don't seem to be around/active at present.

And, if we do reset the rules (and it seems likely :) is there anyone NOT 
currently playing who would consider joining?

RW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Lepage" <dpl33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "discussion list for B Nomic" <spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [s-d] Re: Emergency?


> On Apr 6, 2005, at 5.18 PM, Martin R Crowther wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure we are in a state of emergency any more as the situation is 
> > in hand, although I do agree that we should take view of the situation 
> > and take advantage of it. We (well Wonko) had already started to tidy up 
> > some clutter, and we can rebuild from the rules we currently have (as 
> > opposed to starting completely from scratch). I do think something needs 
> > to be done though.
> >
> > What do people want out of this game? To create? (yes) To argue the 
> > rules? (not really, but it interests me and Peter seems to be for that, 
> > and Wonko seems to have the most experience with them) To play the 
> > subgames? (yes, some - although this is where the chaos takes place 
> > so...) To watch what happens? (oh yeah, especially if I started the chaos 
> > in the first place. although I do like to join in and make it worse :) ) 
> > ... anything else?
> >
> > It does seem like most of the play is taking place in subgames. Does 
> > anyone feel we should start from scratch and rebuild the rules... the 
> > good ones will just get re-propped anyway, and any others will be ignored 
> > or built better. Maybe we should limit the number of subgames as this 
> > seems to divide our focus to much.
> >
> > Some thoughts to think. Please, anyone?! Any other suggestions or ideas? 
> > You don't even have to agree with them - just shout them out.
>
> I wouldn't mind rebooting the ruleset. There are some bits of it that are 
> bad for historical reasons, and many bits that we keep around because 
> nobody hates them enough to repeal them (but nobody likes them enough to 
> repropose them if they were repealed).
>
> If we want to completely reboot the ruleset, we might start from one of 
> the ones presented at 
> <http://www.bnomic.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/NewNomicRules>
>
> These are rulesets designed during the last major game crash. There are 
> four:
>
> 1) Teucer's CNomicRuleSet - a potential ruleset made by selecting the most 
> important rules of B Nomic (with some modifications). 53 rules.
>
> 2) Zarpint the Incomplete's AnotherCNomicSet - another ruleset in the same 
> style as #1, but arranged by a different player. 52 rules.
>
> 3) Glotmorf's MetasystemRules - A very minimalist "modular, 
> weenie-resistant" ruleset designed to work with much automation. 9 rules.
>
> 4) Wonko's WonkoRules - Another adaptation of B Nomic's ruleset, with all 
> the unnecessary parts removed and with an emphasis on readability and 
> extendability. 19 rules.
>
>
> You can probably guess which of these gets my vote, though they'll all 
> need some tweaking to take into account recent innovations.
>
> --
> Wonko
>
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> simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can 
> assume it will be pretty bad.
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