Re: [s-d] Re: [s-b] [auto] ?Rodney submits p1954

[Daniel Lepage <dpl33@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Dec 4, 2004, at 12.14 PM, Bryan Donlan wrote:

> On Sat,  4 Dec 2004 17:05:07 +0000 (GMT), automailer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <automailer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > ?Rodney has submitted a new proposal, p1954.
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Proposal 1954/0: Enforcement of the uninforceable
> > A New Rule by ?Rodney
> > Last modified on nweek 74, nday 1
> >
> > Players have an attribute called Merit.A player starts with 10 merit.
> > At the end of the Nweek all players gain one Merit.
> >
> > If a player delibretly attempts to break a rule then e loses 1
> > Permenent Honor and Merit equal to the Chutzpah of the rule e
> > attempted to break.
>
> This is unenforcable. We cannot distinguish reliably behind an
> accidental rulebreaking and intentional. Moreover, this discourages
> scams, which are part of the fun of nomic :)

Scams happen when something is permitted by the rules by accident, and 
so performing a scam doesn't actually break the rules. But if you try a 
scam which fails because of a rule you overlooked, then you'd lose some 
Merit as a result.

I do agree that "deliberately" is unenforceable.

> > There exists a Game Object known as Jail.If a player has less than 0
> > merit then e goes to Jail.Players in Jail cannot take Game Actions.
> > If a player in jail has 0 or more Merit then e ceases to be in Jail
>
> And how would e gain Merit in Jail?

E gets one every nweek (third sentence of the rule).

> > [[
> > The point of this is to enforce rules such as Rule 636/1
> > ]]
>
> We don't 'enforce' rules. If a player ignores a rule, eir actions have
> no effect. Simple as that.

But this would allow us to pseudo-enforce things that couldn't 
otherwise be enforced... we could bring back the Cursed Sushi, for 
example, and while you would be capable of sending normal messages 
because the rules can't force you not to, we can put you in jail if you 
send out too many.

--
Wonko

"This gubblick contains many nonsklarkish English flutzpahs, but the 
overall pluggandisp can be glorked from context"
    -David Moser, quoted by Douglas Hofstadter in his "Metamagical 
Themas" column in the January 1981 "Scientific American"

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