[s-d] Re: [s-b] harvest time

[Jeremy Cook <athena@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 08:58:59PM -0700, Jake Eakle wrote:
> First, because they have existed for two nweeks, all existing vines produce
> tomatoes. 
> 
> Secondly, I pick the tomatoes on the vines owned by myself, Phil, and Wonko,
> as well as the one on the Vine In The Town Square.
> 
> Now, there are a couple possibilities here. Either the rules is interpreted
> as it was meant, and I now own four tomaatoes and phil and wonko both have
> Free Throws against me which they cannot use, or it is interpreted
> literally, and my having 'picked' these tomatoes is not defined, much as
> 'lay down' wasn't, to have have anything in common with the ordinary english

Whoa. That CFI has not yet been ruled on.

> phrase. In this case, i don't even own my the tomato on my own vine, since i
> have no means of getting it. After all, the rule merely says that vines
> "produce" tomatoes, and says nothing regarding ownership or location. Thus
> it follows that now I have picked four tomatoes, and own none, and Phil and
> Wonko do have Free Throws against me, but still cannot use them, as they
> don't have (and can't have) any tomatoes either.
> 
> My case for the former scenario being the one that actually happens is that
> while 'lay down' in ordinary english really doesn't mean 'play' or 'put back
> in the deck', 'pick' really does mean 'remove from the vine and gain
> posession of'. If I were supreme dictator of this Nomic, I would say that's
> what happens. However, that's also the way it works out best for me, so I
> leave it up to you all.

"pick" isn't capitalized, so it should have the ordinary English
meaning. However, "pick" can mean "choose", so this is just as ambiguous
as the CFI. Maybe those tomatoes are still on the vine, but they've been
chosen.

Zarpint
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