Daniel Lepage on Fri, 8 Oct 2004 16:29:25 -0500 (CDT)


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Re: [s-d] Re: [s-b] Votes



On Oct 8, 2004, at 2.59 PM, Jeremy Cook wrote:

On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 11:28:16AM -0700, Jake Eakle wrote:

Proposal 1915/0: Tomatoes
Shelve [what does it mean for a vine to be planted "in the Town
Square"?]
The attribute "in the Town Square" does not actually define a location
within the game. It is merely a marker to denote that tomatoes from that
Vine can be picked by any player without penalty.


That makes sense, but in the Prop:
There exists a Communal Vine, which has the attribute "In the Town
Square". This Vine is considered to have been planted at the beginning
of nweek 71. No player owns this Vine, nor may any player claim a Free
Throw against any other player picking a Tomato from it. If a Tomato
falls off a Communal Vine, it plants itself in the Town Square. Any and
all Vines in the Town Square are Communal Vines.

you say that a vine 'plants itself in the Town Square'.

The context is sufficient to indicate the intended meaning; That's all that really matters.

Proposal 1916/0: There is a rainbow
Shelve [If a card is stained with Tomato Juice, what color is it
stained?]
It is stained 'unreadable'. If a color card were stained, it would do
nothing when played. Yes, the flavor is lost a little here, because the rainbow cards have no text to be stained, but the tomato rule states that
any stained card will have no effect when played.

Araltaln's prop says:
  The "Apple White" card may be used as a "wild card" to make any
sequence, but using it means the sequence is worth ~30 less (Thus a
sequence of Orange, Yellow, Apple White, Blue would only score ~50). If
the Apple White card has been stained in any way, it is can only
acceptably be substituted for the colour it has been stained.

which seems to conflict with this unless we add a color 'Tomato'.

It's not a conflict, just an ambiguity in Araltaln's rule - it's phrased with the assumption that a card cannot be stained without having a color, and so doesn't say what happens if the stain doesn't have a color.

I would say if the issue ever comes up somebody should CFI it and we'll go by whatever the Judge calls, since it really could be interpreted in a couple different ways.

--
Wonko

The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun.
                -- Buckminster Fuller

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