athena on Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:35:27 -0500 (CDT)


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Re: Re: [spoon-discuss] Rules


On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 03:15:02PM -0400, Daniel Peter Lepage wrote:
> 
> > I understand your point. Two options that come to mind are:
> > 
> > - starting with the version of Suber's ruleset modified for computer
> >   play
> > 
> >   and
> > 
> > - starting with the one rule "Players may change the gamestate if a
> >   majority agrees to." I guess we'd also need a list of initial players. 
> 
> I think that's a little too bare-bones. I'd like to see something that keeps some of the definitions we've put together, things like what an Object is and the standard Poll definitions, but has very little besides that. I'd also like to see something different in how we play the game - for example, why not use proposals that get voted on four days after they're issued, instead of lumping all props together each Ballot?
> 
> I'm thinking it shouldn't be much larger than Dave's original rules for B Nomic... maybe, define objects, documents, players, rules, and proposals; then describe how we can submit props and vote on them, and leave it at that?

Well, offers and societies can go away, but I'm not sure why, since
they're useful constructs that we'd create again. But feel free to
construct a ruleset based on mine, but without those two rules.

There isn't too much else in Another C Nomic Ruleset. I don't understand
your objection to sovereignty. Sovereignty means that we are not under
the jurisdiction of any other ruleset, e.g. Suber's original ruleset or
the laws of any nation real or imaginary. All it's saying is that these
are the only rules that apply.

WRT dictionaries, yes, it is uglier to tie our ruleset to, say, dictionary.com.

The idea of a common language (English) is that dictionaries agree on
the essentials of definitions of a word. If we use one dictionary, we
would still argue over the interpretation of the definition, which is
just as easy to argue about (for example, Supreme Court decisions define
legal terms in the US, but the interpretation of a Court decision is
constantly argued about in US courtrooms.)
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