Re: [spoon-discuss] Straw Poll on the Government Turnover

[SkArcher <SkArcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun, 30 May 2004 17:48:18 -0400 (EDT), Zarpint <athena@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

> On Fri, 28 May 2004, Daniel Lepage wrote:
>
> > On May 28, 2004, at 12.15 AM, Zarpint wrote:
> > > I don't understand how this is just an implementation detail. In 1,
> > > I can do any of the tasks in any of the Ministries. In 2, I can only
> > > do the tasks I am responsible for as a Minister. If you're saying I
> > > can at any point borrow any Ministry, do the task, and return it,
> > > then we have 1 with a lot of excess stuff.
> >
> > Well, what do you mean by "I can do any of the tasks in any of the
> > Ministries"? If you mean, "I can do any of the tasks even if it was
> > supposed to be done yesterday, I only just decided to do it, and
> > somebody else has already done it", then you're right, the Ministries
> > system is significantly different. And also much better.
>
> Scratch "somebody else has already done it", and that's what I mean.
>
> > What I'm getting at is a system to ensure that we don't have multiple
> > people trying to fill a given ministry at random. And yes, that does
> > mean that you won't always be allowed to do any task. You can do any
> > task *provided that somebody else isn't already doing it*.
>
> Specific example:
>
> Task Foo is done by the Ministry of Bar. It was supposed to be done at
> the beginning of nday 3.
>
> It is now sometime after midnight UTC, and Foo has not been done. If I
> am not at all associated with the Ministry of Bar, may I now do the task?
>
> No one is already doing it. Someone is supposed to be doing it, but e 
> might
> do it in an hour or e might never do it.
>
> If the answer is "Yes, I may do it", then we have Open Source. And we may
> have multiple people trying to fill in randomly, so to prevent that, we
> should probably have a real-time list where someone can click and say,
> "I am now doing this task."
>
> If the answer is "No, I need to wait for someone in the Ministry to do 
> it,
> or call a Vote of No-Confidence after X ndays", then we have Ministries.

Hmmm, on consideration it is apparent that the "Open Source" theory will 
suffer the same problems as the Telephone did. Making any specific 
time-frame for a single action to be performed by it's nature makes it 
vulnerable to, if you will excuse the term, "camping" the event


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SkArcher 
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