Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Improving the game

["Baron von Skippy" <bvs@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>>>> -Perhaps I should explain why I propose this. It's not just the 
>>>> dead-end decl
>>>> aration of superiority it seems. Declaring that B Nomic is better 
>>>> than anythi
>>>> ng implies:  B Nomic is better than sex. B Nomic is better than 
>>>> peyote (which
>>>> , as I recall, was at least considered for inclusion in the motto). 
>>>> B Nomic i
>>>> s better than two other games of B Nomic, both of which are better 
>>>> than each
>>>> other and it. B Nomic is better than Rules 10, 33, and 1702. B Nomic 
>>>> is bette
>>>> r than the adjective "better."
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it also entail that B Nomic is better than itself? I think 
>>> it's a
>>> logical truth that for all x, x is not better than x.
>>>
>> -Only if you look at it mathmatically. In economics, the principle of 
>> reflexivity says that for any set of goods a, a is better than or 
>> equal to a. Besides, "B Nomic is better than anything except itself, 
>> which it is only equal to" doesn't roll off the tongue as easily.-
>
>"Greater than" is not a reflexive relationship. "Greater than or equal 
>to" is.

-And "greater than" is part of "greater than or equal to." What's the confusion?-
>
>If you claim that B Nomic is greater than itself, then we have a 
>problem, as nothing can be greater than itself, and therefore logically 
>B Nomic must not exist.
>
>That's a Bad Thing (tm).
>
-Only if you want to look at this in such a pessimistic way. I've seen a couple good arguments thus far that disprove you. Fine, though, you want to insist that this could send the game into a Big Bad Evil Spiral of Death, so what if I add a new paragraph to Rule 1 that reads "B Nomic exists. This rule takes precedence over all other rules that would attempt to deny, undermine, or contradict the existence of B Nomic."

Also, B Nomic is better than any argument, logical or otherwise, that would threaten its existence.-

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