Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] CFIs

[SkArcher <SkArcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

<SNIP a bunch of CFI-related stuff>

> R10 seems to be the thing that makes the game platonic (as opposed to 
> pragmatic). In a platonic game, such as chess, illegal actions are 
> considered
>   never to have occurred - if you try to jump your pawn from E2 to F6, 
> your opponent just says "you can't do that", the pawn gets put back, and 
> the game continues as if it had never even been tried.
>
> In a pragmatic game, such as soccer, illegal actions can happen, and 
> penalties are provided for performing them - the rules say you can't 
> touch the ball with your hands or tackle other players, but they lack 
> the power to actually stop you from doing it; rather, provisions are 
> made by which the other team will profit if you do.
>
> R10 forces this game to be platonic, by declaring that all players 
> *must* obey all rules; this implies that it is impossible to break a 
> rule.
>
> This is why objects such as the Cursed Sushi cannot work - any rule 
> governing what one posts to the public forum must by necessity be 
> pragmatic, as the rules lack the power to stop me from posting 
> unsushified text to the forum. Likewise, society charters that attempt 
> to restrict game actions must be pragmatic, as a society charter cannot 
> actually stop me from, say, making a proposal; but it can punish me by 
> expelling me from the society.

Perhaps the terms Platonic and Pragmatic should be enshrined in the 
ruleset, and we can specify which is which, so that we _can_ have rules 
like the sushi (and the scarf, for that matter)

SkArcher

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