Re: [spoon-discuss] Eleusis

["Glotmorf" <dwhytock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 28 Sep 2003 at 20:42, Baron von Skippy wrote:

> >I came across an interesting Nomic variant based on the card game
> >Eleusis. The general gist of the game was that one player, the GOD,
> >created a secret rule governing what sorts of proposals are
> >allowable. During each player's turn, e makes a proposal; if it is
> >consistent with the secret rule, it is adopted; otherwise it fails.
> >The objective is to be the player who figures out what the secret
> >rule is; at the end of the round, points are given out based on a
> >variety of factors, including who made the most correct proposals,
> >who finally ran out of points, etc.
> >
> >The original game collapsed because it became too difficult to get
> >proposals passed; the records are in Joel's deadgames archive at
> >http://www.nomic.net/deadgames/eleusis/eleusis.html
> >
> >Would anybody be interested in a subgame run along a similar theme?
> >
> -I could go for this. Sounds pretty cool.-

My Blind Nomic game (also in Joel's deadgames archive) had 
similar problems, though people managed to eat away at quite a 
few of the secret rules.

I ran it semi-Imperial, and one principle I operated under 
was, "Rules that specifically reveal substantial portions of 
the hidden rules would not be allowed."  Would there be non-
hidden rules, or metarules, or whatever, in Eleusis?  
Otherwise, the hidden rule would HAVE to be something that 
prevents revealing itself, else someone could just make a 
proposal that reveals it.

						Glotmorf

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