Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Underwriting

[Daniel Lepage <dpl33@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Monday, September 15, 2003, at 06:57 PM, Craig wrote:

> > Okay, so I'll buy that a central figure is good, but why can't the
> > central figure gain points from the activity? For example, I've been
> > contemplating an Eleusis-based subgame; the rules of Eleusis 
> > definitely
> > provide for a central authority, namely the dealer, but the dealer
> > still gets points, and in fact those points are necessary to give the
> > dealer an incentive to make a good rule.
>
> No they aren't. Ever played Zendo? A good Master, doing it for the 
> love of
> the game, will make it more enjoyable than a good rule that gets an 
> Eleusis
> dealer a lot of points. I agree with you in general, on all of this, 
> but I
> think that your example is bad.

I'd never heard of Zendo before I read your email and looked it up on 
Google a few minutes ago, but it looks interesting... I think the role 
of the Master differs slightly from the role of the Eleusis Dealer, 
though, despite their similarities. In Zendo, there appears to be no 
penalty for making a bad koan (if I've read the rules correctly), 
whereas errors are penalized in Eleusis; because of this, I believe 
it's much harder to come up with a good rule in Eleusis than in Zendo 
(of course, I say this without having ever played Zendo, so I could be 
wrong).
	I suppose it's a bit misleading to call the Eleusis system an 
'incentive', though - it's more like a bonus for doing a good job as 
dealer. And regardless, it would be impossible under the proposed 
Underwriting scheme.

--
Wonko

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