Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] r10

[Mark Karasek <mkarasek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 20:49:35 -0400, Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

> > > > From the former Rule 15:
> > > > "Proposals are processed in increasing integral order of serial number 
> > > > with respect to each other, but are otherwise considered to occur 
> > > > simultaneously, in the "instant" between the end of one nweek and the 
> > > > beginning of the next nweek."
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, B Nomic became a nation at the same moment that the laws of 
> > > > all nations were repealed. Even if this hadn't been true, since p1596 
> > > > created a rule rather than performing an action, I took this to mean 
> > > > that it was a *continuous* action; otherwise, why bother making it a 
> > > > rule?
> > >
> > > This has, I believe, been discussed before; the conclusion reached was 
> > > that the effects of the proposals happen 'simultaneously in order' - 
> > > i.e., the gamestate changes to what it would be if they were 
> > > implemented in order (that's the "processed in increasing order" bit); 
> > > but the change itself is a single change that happens all at once.
> > >
> > > Note that the rule says that they actually *are* processed in order, 
> > > while they're just *considered* to have happened simultaneously. This 
> > > was put in, I believe, to prevent things like Automation scripts from 
> > > stepping in between proposals ("as soon as pX passes and defines 
> > > something with a hole, but before pX+1 closes the hole, I do the 
> > > following:").
> >
> > Now that I think about it, this discussion is irrelevant. In addition to 
> > nations, the proposal also repealed laws of international bodies; since 
> > B Nomic ha(s|d) players from multiple countries, shouldn't it qualify? 
> > (hint: Yes)
>
> It's debateable whether they qualify as laws if we're a nation; they 
> certainly aren't laws if we're not a nation. Gaming rules and laws are 
> two very different things.

(from dictionary.reference.com): Law - 1. A rule of conduct or procedure 
established by custom, agreement, or authority. Do our rules not fit this 
description?

--The Pusher Robot
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