Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] NWEEK 46 BALLOT

[Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 09:12  PM, Baron von Skippy wrote:

> > > What cleverness? What McGee did was to make a statement in a prop 
> > > that
> > > he edidn't even realise was going to be so large. e did it by mistake
> >
> > Not exactly by mistake, if I read eir msgs correctly; e just didn't
> > realize the full implications of it. That doesn't change the fact that
> > nobody else did anything particularly clever either.
> -From where I stand, Wonko, you're not making the most stable 
> argument. You're saying, essentially, that we shouldn't jump on 
> possible ways to win as fast as possible, which is something you've 
> been doing for a while now.

I didn't say you shouldn't jump on ways to win; I'm saying you 
shouldn't jump on things that you didn't come up with, unless you've 
got a new take on it. If you'd done something differently than Anything 
did, I wouldn't have objected, because at least you'd be coming up with 
something new (that's why I don't really object to WC's Society victory 
attempt; though I don't think it works either). But I think that if 
you, SkArcher, and Glotmorf all get Wins out of this, it's devaluing 
the Win, because none of you three did anything that seems particularly 
special or winworthy; you just copied what McGee did.

> You even take people's scams when you don't agree with them, just on 
> the off chance that you're wrong.

I do?

> But the one time you don't do this, you've got the moral high ground? 
> I think not. As things stand, you're the only one arguing Anything's 
> case here. If e doesn't have a problem with it (and indeed is being a 
> far better sport about this than I would have expected, even trying to 
> repay me points /you/ tried to take), why do you?-

I'm not arguing Anything's case. E says e doesn't deserve any credit, 
and that's fine with me. I'm arguing against your attempt to give 
yourself credit for the scam, when I don't see how you have any more 
claim to it than e does. Or than Rob does, for that matter - e was the 
first person to incorporate the bit about 'other events related to the 
passage or failure of the proposal' into the ruleset (p115, nweek 1).

--
Wonko

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