Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Political Go

[Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 08:30  PM, Craig wrote:

> > > Ending the game
> > > ---------------
> > > The game ends when nobody has made a move for more than an Nweek.
>
> > Is there any guarantee that this will ever happen? Seems to me that if
> > nothing else, those players who lost lots of pieces can forestall 
> > their
> > point loss simply by swapping alliances once an nweek.
>
> It should probably be "The game ends when nobody has placed a stone on 
> the
> board for more than an nweek."
>
> > > A Territory is a set of empty board positions, connected by being
> > > horizontally or vertically adjacent. Any player who has a stone
> > > adjacent
> > > to a Territory at the end of the game is considered to own a share of
> > > that Territory.
> > >
> > > If N players own a share of a Territory that contains M empty spaces,
> > > then those players each receive M/N points, rounded down.
>
> > Don't the scores rise quite quickly based on the size and shape of the
> > territories? Cause if, say, I have stone in the middle of an otherwise
> > empty 3x3 block, I'm adjacent to 57 territories, by this rule. That's 
> > a
> > lotta points.
>
> No, you're adjacent to one. And it has at least 8 spaces.

Not by this definition. There are 57 sets of empty board positions that 
would be adjacent to my location - 8 with one space, 8 with two spaces, 
8 with three, 8w/4,5,6,and 7. And the one with all 8.

Make it an abnormally shaped empty hole, and it'll take us a week just 
to count all the different territories.

> > > Each player also loses a point for each of eir stones that was 
> > > captured
> > > during the game.
>
> > Seems to me that people can keep playing stones until the board fills
> > up. Then scoring kicks in, and nobody gets any points at all. In fact,
> > almost every person who plays this game should come out with few 
> > points
> > than they went in with.
>
> No, because if the board fills up, somebody's stones are all captured.
>
> I take it you've never played Go, Wonko? If not, google it. Try the 
> search
> string Weiqi, which is the chinese name for it, since "go" is a common
> English verb.

But if the board doesn't fill up, then there are legal moves I could 
make. So I will, and the game won't end.

> > BTW, would you mind if I ripped off some of this rule to establish an
> > Othello or Ataxx subgame?
>
> Ataxx... that's the name series of games from Software Creations 
> Hexxagon
> comes from, isn't it?
>
> I love Hexxagon.

I don't know. I only recently learned Ataxx; it's the one where a move 
consists of either placing a new stone next to one of yours, or jumping 
one of yours over a square; whenever you put a stone in a square by 
either means, you gain control of all adjacent stones.

> By the way, I'm thinking about introducing a variant of the contest I 
> tried
> to start in Agora, called Agoran Gamblers' Chess. However, since I'll 
> be out
> of town for a while soon, would anyone mind if I just post the Agora 
> rules
> here and leave the B translation to y'all?

Go ahead.

--
Wonko

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