Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Veni, Vidi, Vacancy

[SkArcher <SkArcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

05/05/2003 00:57:54, "Baron von Skippy" <baronvonskippy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>> >>I think mace ought to be more effective than herrings. And why do you 
>>care
>> >>if I'm carrying you? You can't do anything by yourself.
>> >>
>> >-Actually, I can. For one thing, I can not get thrown in the Lake, not 
>>get
>> >sold, and so on... and I can move around by myself:
>> >
>> >Force Lifting is a Force Ability. It costs 8 Force, and must be targeted 
>>at
>> >a carryable object that is within 3 squares of the Lifting player's 
>>location
>> >and is not in the possession of another object, and another square within 
>>3
>> >squares of the Lifting player's location that the target object could
>> >legally enter. When a player Force Lifts an object, that object is moved
>> >from its location to the targeted square.
>> >
>> >I'm a carryable object within three spaces of myself, aren't I? Yes, I
>> >thought so.-
>> >
>> >[[BvS]]
>>
>>Yes, but...
>>
>>
>>F. Carryable Objects
>>
>>F.1 Toads
>>Certain events may cause a player to become a Toad. Toads are Carryable, 
>>Throwable, Passable MOs.
>>
>>While a player is a Toad, the following is true:
>>
>>Other players may occupy the same location as em.
>>E may not pick up, catch, or throw objects.
>>E may not make a move of eir own free will.
>>E may not use Elbonian Airways.
>>E is unaffected by Bonus Boxes.
>>
>>
>>
>>As the force rule states that the object is moved from its current 
>>location, that would mean you wer moving of your own free will, therefore 
>>you cannot
>>
>-Define "movement." I'm sure no definition out there as yet involves the 
>expenditure of Force to lift oneself around the Grid. Therefore it's legal.-
>
>[[BvS]]

I don't have to define movement; the force rule states 'When a player Force Lifts an object,
that object is moved from its location to the targeted square.'

This explicitly states that the object in question is moved, and as you *are* the object, you are 
therefore moving, and under your own free will, which is explicitly outlawed in the Toad rules.

You can move other stuff about, but not yourself.



SkArcher

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