Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Uh... Crap...

[bd <bdonlan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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On Thursday 24 April 2003 07:22 pm, Baron von Skippy wrote:
> > >>> Take a look at the current Society rule.
> > >>>
> > >>> Notice Section I in particular. Look at the previous version of it;
> > >>> that is, prior to Orc's "fix".
> > >>>
> > >>> Notice the thing that is in the previous version, but not in Orc's
> > >>> "better" version.
> > >>>
> > >>> See what's not there?
> > >>>
> > >>> It's Charters! That's right, a majority of players (Anything McGee,
> > >>> Baron von Skippy, bd, Orc In a Spacesuit) have voted to DO AWAY WITH
> > >>> SOCIETY CHARTERS!
> > >>>
> > >>> So, the following organizations have just been effectively neutered
> > >>> (they have names, members, and any points/RUs/BNS they had, but can
> > >>> do nothing with them):
> > >>
> > >> Actually, they still have their charters.  Nowhere is it mandated that
> > >> their charters ceased to exist.  There's nothing mandating their
> > >> creation now, but that doesn't mean they're gone.  In fact, there
> > >> never was anything mandating their creation in the last version.  So,
> > >> right now, all societies still have their charters, but any new one
> > >> that comes along will be, sadly, without.
> > >
> > >Didn't we just decide that the gamestate cannot be affected by things
> > >which whose existences aren't provided for in the rules, like dead
> > >players and whatnot? You've removed the definition of a Charter; so
> > >Societies can modify them, and even obey them, but nothing specifies
> > >what they are.
> > >
> > >Wait a minute... did I just say 'modify them'? And "nothing specifies
> > >what they are"?
> > >
> > >!  8-D  !
> > >
> > >I create a new Society, called "A New Exploitation!", with myself as
> > >the initial member.
> > >
> > >As per r18, __Permissibility of the Unprohibited__, "With the exception
> > >of Rule Changes whatever is not prohibited or regulated by the Ruleset
> > >is permitted and unregulated."
> > >
> > >The creation of Charters, or for that matter the definition of
> > >Charters, is no longer regulated; so I define the Charter of "A New
> > >Exploitation!" to be me, that is, the player known as Wonko.
> > >
> > >As per r578, societies take actions when their charters 'dictate' that
> > >they do. Also as per r578, societies are empowered to modify eir
> > >charters.
> > >
> > >Therefore, I dictate that "A New Exploitation!" modifies its charter by
> > >increasing the Charm of its charter by 50.
> > >
> > >As per r154, I Win.
> > >
> > >As per r0, I recognize a State of Emergency.
> >
> >Didn't we just decide that the gamestate cannot be affected by things
> > which whose existences aren't provided for in the rules, like charters
> > and whatnot?  Thanks to Mr. in a Spacesuit's most recent society screw,
> > while a society can manipulate some object called a charter, it doesn't
> > say that such an object as a charter actually exists.  Therefore, you
> > can't create a society that includes a charter, since the initual state
> > of such an object isn't defined.
> >
> >There do, however, exist some charters ("legacy" charters, I suppose).
> >Since the rules say societies can modify their charters, it means they can
> >modify said charters if said charters exist.
> >
> >Rule 18 doesn't apply in this case, because r578 says charters can be
> >manipulated; that means charters are regulated.  There's just no provision
> >for their creation.
> >
> >M-Tek, fortunately, doesn't have that problem...
> >
> >I modify M-Tek's charter by adding 100 to the charter's charm, and the
> >following text: "If this charter ever possesses charm, it evenly
> >distributes it among M-Tek's members."
> >
> >...A nod to Wonko for eir idea.
> >
> >*We* win.
> >
> >I now declare a state of emergency.
> >
> >						Glotmorf
>
> -I remove all members of vSOI from vSOI except myself.
>
> As the sole remaining member, the following are legal for me to do:
>
> I modify the Charter of vSOI to read: "If at any time this Charter has any
> BNS, this Charter distributes those BNS evenly among all members of vSOI.
> The CEO of vSOI can change this charter as e pleases, unless there are
> seven members of vSOI, in which case all alterations must be unanimous."
>
> I modify vSOI's charter to have 1.75 million BNS.
>
> I modify vSOI's Charter to be embodied by the following players: Baron von
> Skippy, Glotmorf, Wonko, bd, Orc in a Spacesuit, and The Voice.
>
> I make Glotmorf, Wonko, bd, Orc in a Spacesuit, and The Voice members of
> vSOI.-

I appreciate the gesture, but this isn't spoon-business ;)
- -- 
bd
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a um pouco de diversão.
                -- Helen Rowland
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