Re: [spoon-discuss] Nomic relations

["Baron von Skippy" <baronvonskippy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> > > I said before that the proposed rule was too general, too vague, and 
> > > tried to do too much with those general, vague terms.  Wonko, I think, 
> > > has the same objections, but finds specific problems.
> > >
> > > I think the solution is to not try to build this giant structure with 
> > > Subers and object limitations and such; instead, we should do each 
> > > interaction with another nomic as a custom job.  Maybe trade a few items 
> > > with one.  Maybe have interactions in another, not trading, but 
> > > cause-effect things, like whenever Whoopass explodes here, it does 
> > > something to another nomic.  Other stuff.  But each time it should be 
> > > done with each nomic as a completly custom job.
> > >
> > > My 2¢.
> > >
> > > Orc in a Spacesuit
> > -I'm almost willing to agree, so keep talking. Just answer me one thing. 
> > What happens when they steal our rules and make our stuff for next to 
> > nothing, to spite us? Answer me that and I'll go over to your way of 
> > thinking. Say "we crush them with great justice," and I'll pretend I never 
> > suggested the idea in the first place.-
> >
> > [[BvS]]
>
> Well, what's to stop any nomic from looking at our ruleset, saying "ooh, 
> those are cool!", and making a new rule that's like it?  And the fact that 
> there is no single overarching authority (like a single unified ruleset) to 
> govern such things, and such is damn impossible and/or wouldn't be agreed 
> upon, opening up free-flowing commerce just doesn't seem to be something 
> that'll work out too well.  I think that hammering out very specific rules 
> in both nomics for each kind of interaction would be best; if they feel 
> like "stealing" rules, they can, though if they set up rules specifically 
> to trade Whoopass with us, I see little point -- we have rules defining the 
> generation of Big Sticks, and whether these Sticks come from the nether or 
> come from another nomic shouldn't be much an issue.
>
> If you're wanting a free-flowing commerce, that's another issue.  If you 
> want to do that, then the only way to truly regulate it would be to create 
> a new InterNomic, and have all everything -- points, Subers, objects, 
> whatever -- be totally governed by this InterNomic, as its own objects.  It 
> could, for example, have the rule "Any participant nomic may pay B Nomic 4 
> Subers to gain 1 Can of Whoopass."  Then, C-Nomic could have the rule 
> "Whenever C Nomic gains possession of a Can of Whoopass in InterNomic, any 
> player may purchase a Can of Whoopass in this nomic for 20 C-Notes."  We 
> have our Cans, InterNomic has their own Cans, and C-Nomic has its own cans. 
>  Heck, D-Nomic could even have "Whenever D-Nomic gains possession of a Can 
> of Whoopass in InterNomic, all players become Flurbled and are moved to the 
> Punishement Room".
>
> There's a lot to do with this.  But we either need to have each thing done 
> real individually with each nomic, or get a central authority.
>
> Orc in a Spacesuit
-At this point I don't care which, except that I don't have a clue how to 
fix the problems, and I won't have time for a few days to look at the 
problem, so... let's just go one at a time. It seems easier and requires 
less by way of complex systems which no other Nomic will agree to adopt. 
I'll draft up a proposal soon to make Ambassadors able to do this all, and 
we'll be off to see the proverbial wizard.-

[[BvS]]

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