Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] That's a lotta bulldozers

[Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 04:09  PM, Glotmorf wrote:

> On 4/2/03 at 3:49 PM Daniel Lepage wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 03:21  PM, Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
> >
> > > [[On spoon-business this time.]]
> > > [[A little bug I found in mining:  you can strip mine a location
> > > that's being strip mined already.  As such,]]
> > > IiSstrip Mine (9,5), paaaying thequaalitycost.
> > > IiSstrip Mine (9,5), paaaying thequaalitycost.
> > > IiSstrip Mine (9,5), paaaying thequaalitycost.
> > > IiSstrip Mine (9,5), paaaying thequaalitycost.
> > > IiSstrip Mine (9,5), paaaying thequaalitycost.
> > > [[Question is, is this a bug or a feature?  We could say that more
> > > crews in the same place work faster.  Also note that it will pay out
> > > for starting with gravel each time, but the payout for finishing
> > > will vary with each set of mining will depend on the substance that
> > > particular crew finds.  I say it's at least partially a bug, with
> > > all this starting bonus.]]
> >
> > It will not pay out for starting with gravel each time; they'll all
> > finish in order, and every time the substance will change from 
> > whatever
> > it was before *that particular finishing*, to one of {Rock, Water,
> > Earth, and Gravel}. Then the next one will finish, changing it from
> > whichever of those was selected to something else. In each case, it
> > looks at the 'new' and 'old' substances *with respect to the change*,
> > meaning what it was changed from and what it was changed to. So you do
> > get 10 bonus RUs from starting on Gravel for the first one, iff it's
> > still Gravel when the mining finishes.
> >
> > Note that this means that if the square becomes Wet, or has its
> > substance changed because of explosions/Destruction/whatever, you 
> > don't
> > get the bonus.
> >
> > This is a bit of a bug as it circumvents the restriction on how many
> > mining ops can go on at once - there's a limit on how many *squares*
> > can be mined at once, but not on how many times a given square can be
> > mined.
> >
> > Regarding Glotmorf's point about Depth - it's legal if it all starts
> > when it's at the right level. Once any of these finishes, you won't be
> > able to do more.
>
> Actually, the current definition of "location" (which I created to 
> allow for this sort of thing) includes X, Y and Z coordinates, Z being 
> elevation.  So, assuming strip-mining five times in one place is 
> considered five consecutive actions, it will result in five different 
> locations being mined, one underneath another.
>
> Which means the location at (9,5,-1) can't be strip-mined until the 
> location at (9,5,0) is, because, with (9,5,0) in the way, (9,5,-1) 
> can't be moved to.

But nothing prevents (9,5,0) from being strip-mined repeatedly - the 
mining has no effect until it finishes, so other minings can be started 
as if nothing were different.

Starting mining five times is 5 separate actions, but all of them take 
place before any of the minings finish, since the conclusion of each 
mining is a separate event, delayed by an nday from the starting point.

--
Wonko

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