Rob Speer on 18 Nov 2002 20:40:02 -0000


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Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: CFI


On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 01:32:14PM -0600, Orc In A Spacesuit wrote:
> >What is the solution set for "the value of X is not limited to 1"?  
> >Lacking further qualifiers, it would be all numbers, including 1.
> 
> The answer is "Undefined".  Ask any serious mathamatician that question, 
> and e'll ask what you're smoking.

If the statement were rephrased in mathematical terms, it would be
something like this:

1 e S (pretend that 'e' is the 'element' symbol; this says that 1 is in
the set)
and S != {1} (but the set is not the set containing only 1)

S has infinitely many possible values, and the set of all numbers is
only one possibility with nothing special about it. Any set with at
least two elements, one of which is 1, meets these criteria.

So here's how this applies to the Societies rule:

Statement given by the rules: "These are not the only actions that
Societies can take"

Rephrasing: "Societies can take these actions plus at least one more"
Consequence of R18: "Societies can do the mambo"

A statement which satisfies the Societies rule: "Societies can take
these actions, and they can also do the mambo"

Granted, that doesn't say what societies _can't_ do, but at that point
it's outside the scope of the rules. Rules that say what players can do
don't need to qualify it with "...but they can't do other things like
taking over the game", so why should it be different for societies?

--
Rob Speer

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