[spoon-discuss] socities 2

["Orc In A Spacesuit" <orcinaspacesuit@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Here's version 2 of my enhance and fix societies and corporations prop.

As I think we have all seen, redundacy can be both bad and good.  Bad if it 
just creates clutter, or causes conflictions or competing rules.  Good if it 
restates a truth where it's logical to restate it, and that truth could 
easily be accidentally affected by changes (like Less is More).  So I both 
removed and added some redundancy.

Glotmorf, about your most recent email, I won't be replying to it as it 
contains many facts and opinions that no longer apply because of my changes. 
 Let me know what you think of this version.

To help people figure it out, here's how societies and corporations do 
stuff, long story short:
Socities and Corporations can do things, like (but not limited to) add or 
get rid of members or change it's charter/mission statement.  Their 
charter/mission statement dictates when it does stuff (usually when a 
certain person or a group of members say it does).  One analogy is that they 
are big robots, and each have different buttons, and some people have access 
to these buttons.  Some buttons do a little, some do a lot.

Anyway, on with the show:

I don't propose the following, as it's on -discuss:

{{__Societies and Corporations__

Change the rule __Societies__ to read the following:
{{

A. Definition

In this rule, an Independent Entity is a Player, or a Society whose members 
are all Independent Entities.
In this rule, a Dependent Entity is a Gremlin, a Corporation, or a Society 
whose members are all Independent Entities.
In this rule, an Entity is any of the two groups above.
A Society is a group of one or more entities who are Members of the Society.

B. Society Rules

A Society may have Internal Rules that are binding upon its Members. 
Internal Rules defer to game rules.

A Society's Internal Rules consist of Public Rules and Private Rules. Public 
Rules must be readable by all Players in the game, and are enforcible at the 
game level. Private Rules are freeform; maintenance and enforcement of 
Private rules is the responsibility of the Members of the Society.  Internal 
Rules do not allow entities to perform actions in ways that they otherwise 
cannot.  Internal Rules, Public Rules, and Private rules are seperate and 
distinct from the Rules of this game.

Societies may take actions permitted them in the rules. [[redundant, but I'm 
making it extra clear.]]

Public rules may include conditions in which a Society performs actions.  (A 
Society is an Entity, so may perform actions, such as tranfer points, join 
another society, propose, own a corporation... etc, of course subject to all 
applicable rules and restrictions in the rules.).  Societies take the 
actions their charters dictate, when legal.

C. Society Charter

A Society must have a Charter, which contains its public rules and may 
dictate what actions it takes.  All charters must be listed in a public This 
collection of charters may contain other pertinent information, and the 
Administrator is encouraged to include such information as whether or not 
the Society still exists in this collection. The Charter is considered a 
game document, and is maintained by the Administrator in a collection of 
Charters.  This charter may not also be a rule [[for simplicity; if you want 
to create a society through proposal, just create one, rather than through a 
rule]].

D. Society Actions
D.1 General

A Society may modify its Charter during the first 5 ndays of an nweek, if 
all of its members are Independent Entities.  Such changes do not take place 
until the end of the nweek.
[[But it won't, unless it's Charter states when it does.  I suggest the 
Charter have something like "If a member of this Society proposes a change 
to this Society, and no other member objects to the change within 4 ndays, 
this Society makes the change", or something.]]

A Society may Accept any Entity that states e currently wishes to join it.  
When a Society Accepts an entity, that Entity becomes a Member of that 
Society.
[[I suggest something like "This Society Accepts any entity wishing to join 
when the Leader of this Society states eir approval of the entity joining.]]

A Society may Oust any of its Members.  Members who are Ousted cease to be 
Member of that Society.

Any Entity that has Points or BNS may transfer any positive amount of eir 
Points or BNS to any other Entity that has Points or BNS, respectively.  
Players may transfer a positive amount of eir Bandwidth to any Society. [[I 
think this is redundant, but the way the rules are, I don't know, and it 
could change anyway.]]

D.2 Proposals

Beginning in the nweek after the one in which they are created, Societies 
may submit proposals just as Players can; these are referred to as Society 
Proposals, or Club Props. If the properties of a a Society would be changed 
by the rules as a result of voting, and the Society does not have that 
property, all members of that society get that change divided by the number 
of members in that society with that property, with the remainder assigned 
to randomly among those members.  If the previous sentence would create an 
infinite loop, in the opinion of the administrator, then the change is 
assigned as the Administrator sees fit, or not at all.  Submitting a 
proposal does require the society to have and pay bandwidth, just as it does 
with players.

When a Society submits a Proposal, it must state a Member of the Society who 
can propose (if e were freed of bandwidth restrictions) to be the Presenter 
of the Proposal.  If a property is referenced in a rule that the Society 
does not have but the Presenter does, the rule looks to the Presenter's 
property.  Such properties may result in restrictions on the proposal, as 
defined by the rules (This is for BAC and such.  I'm pretty much making it 
such that one person actually delivers the prop).

A Society may not make proposals if the number of Members not On Leave in 
the Society is less than 2, or the number of its Members is greater than one 
half the number of Off Leave Players in the game.

A Society may also revise or rescind eir current proposals, when it is not a 
voting period [[more redundancy, but just making sure]].

E. Leaving a Society
Membership in Societies is voluntary.  Any Member of a Society may at any 
time Leave the Society, ceasing to be a Member of the Society.  Public Rules 
cannot prevent a Member from leaving a Society, and once a Member has 
Leaves, the Public rules of that Society cease to bind em. (Until e joins 
again, if that ever happens).

If a Society ever has no Members, it ceases to exist, unless another Rule or 
the Society's Charter states otherwise.  If a Society has no Members for the 
entirety of an nweek, is ceases to exist unless another rule states 
otherwise.  (If it didn't exist for part of the nweek, then it didn't have 
members at that time.  Just clarification.)

When a Society ceases to exist (indcluding if it is destroyed), unless its 
Charter, a passed proposal, or a rule state otherwise,

F. Resources

A Society may have the properties Bandwidth, Points, and/or BNS, if such is 
stated in the charter of that Society.  Any Entity that has any of these may 
transfer any positive amount to any Society that has that property.  The 
default values for these properties is 0.

Just to be perfectly clear, any Entity that has Points, Bandwidth, and/or 
BNS may transfer any positive amount of those to any other Entity that has 
the tranferred property.

G. Creating a Society

Once per nweek, a Player may create a Society, giving it a uniquely 
identifying name.  Unless e specifies e does not, the creator of a society 
becomes a member of that Society.

[[If you want to invite some people into the society at the beginning, just 
have the Charter specify it'll automatically let those people join, and 
maybe include a time limit when that part is taken out.]]

[[You can still create via proposal.  Societies are a part of the game, so 
props can affect them.]]
}}

Modify the rule __Corporations__ (1149/0) to read the following:
{{
A. Definitions
In this rule, an Independent Entity is a Player, or a Society whose members 
are all Independent Entities.
In this rule, a Dependent Entity is a Gremlin, a Corporation, or a Society 
whose members are all Independent Entities.
In this rule, an Entity is any of the two groups above.
A Corporation is a group of zero or more entities who are Employees of the 
Corporation.  A Corporation may also have an Owner and/or a Mission 
Statement.

B. Creation of Corporations
Once per nweek, if e has not done so already, an Entity may create a 
Corporation, giving it a uniquely identifying name.  A Corporation may have 
Employees, which are entities, and an Owner, which is an Entity.  The Owner 
may cause a Corporation to take legal actions.  When creating a Corporation, 
it's creator may become its Owner if e chooses, and may specify its Mission 
Statement.

C. Corporation Actions
Entities may Apply to a Corporation, and may Withdraw an application.
Corporations may Hire an Entitity who has Applied to that Corporation and 
not subsequently Withdrawn eir application.  When an Entity is Hired by a 
Corporation, e becomes an Employee of that Corporation.
A Corporation may Fire an Employee.  Any Employee who is Fired by a 
Corporation is no longer an Employee of that Corporation.
An Employee of a Corporation may Quit that Corporation.  Any Employee who 
Quits a Corporation is no longer an Employee of that Corporation.
A Corporation may change it's Mission Statement.  Such changes take effect 
at the end of the nweek in which the change is made.

A Corporation may confer and withdraw Positions to its Employees and Owner.  
Positions are not Titles or names, and do not affect the game in any way, 
except when a Rule, Proposal, Charter, or Mission Statement refers 
specifically to an Employee of that Company with that Position.  (So having 
the Position "Glotmorf" in Corporation "Wonko's Slaves" wouldn't cause the 
Charter of the Society "Glotmorf's Fan Club" that refers to "Glotmorf" to 
refer to the person with that position; the Charter would have to refer to 
the "The Glotmorf of Wonko's Slaves".  However, as long as it's made clear 
that the position is being referred to, the entire "of Corporation X" isn't 
needed each time.)

A Corporation may change it's Mission Statement.

Hiring an Entity, Firing an Employee, and changing its Mission Statement are 
Managerial Actions.  [[This is to keep Mission Statements short.]]

D. Mission Statement
The Mission Statement of a Corporation, if it has one, may define conditions 
in which the Corporation takes Actions (such as hiring, fireing, payroll, 
etc).  When the Mission Statement of a Corporation states it takes a legal 
Action, it takes the Action. may include conditions in which the 
Corporation's Mission Statement is changed. [[I suggest that some 
Corporations have in eir Mission Statement that it performs Actions upon its 
Owner saying it does.]]

If the Mission Statement of a Corporation confers a Position to the Owner of 
a Corporation purely because e is the owner, and that entity ceases to have 
that Position, e also ceases to be the Owner of that Corporation.  If an 
entity gains that Position, all other Employees of the Corporation lose that 
position if they have it.

[[Some notes:
A Society named "Thingies, Inc. Board of Directors" would make a good owner 
for a Society named "Thingies, Inc.".
The Owner of a Corporation might also want to be an Employee.
A corporation doesn't need employees, an owner, or a mission statement, but 
won't be doing much without them.]]
}}

Change the following Societies to Corporations with the following properties 
(and if the named society does not exist, create one with the name given):
{{
Former Society: von Skippy Overproduction, Inc.
Owner: Baron von Skippy
Employees: Baron von Skippy, The Voice, Wild Card, Glotmorf, Wonko, bd, 
Squire of Dimness, Athena
Mission Statement: von Skippy Overproduction, Inc. may also be referred to 
as vSOI.  The Owner of vSOI has the position "CEO".  If the CEO or all 
Employees of vSOI other than the CEO consent to have vSOI perform an action 
other than modify its Mission Statement, it does so.  If at any time there 
is no CEO of vSOI, the Employee of vSOI who has been an employee for the 
longest time and is not the Owner of any other Company become the CEO, if 
one exists.  If at any time the CEO of vSOI is the Owner of any other 
Society, e loses the position CEO.  vSOI changes is Mission Statement if all 
its employees state it does.

Former Society: Athena's Society
Owner: Athena
Employees: Athena, bd, Lord Gregarian, BvS, Orc in a Spacesuit
Mission Statement: If Athena's Society has points or BNS greater than the 
number of Employees it has, Athena's Society transfers one of that propoerty 
to each of its members that can have that property.  Athena's Society 
performs Managerial Actions when its Owner says it does.

Former Society: Wealthy Bastard Enterprises
Owner: Wonko [[Or Glotmorf, or a Society made up of both of them named "The 
Wealthy Bastards"]]
Employees: Wonko [[and/or Glotmorf]]
Mission Statement: Wealthy Bastard Enterprises may also be referred to as 
WBE.  The Owner of WBE has the positions "Wealthy Bastard" and "Boss".  At 
the end of each nweek, before Corporation Mission Statement changes are 
made, if WBE has enough BNS to do so, it transfers 55 BNS to the Boss and 11 
BNS to each non-Boss Employee.  WBE performs Managerial Actions when the 
Boss says it does.

Former Society: OrcTech
Owner: Orc In A Spacesuit
Employees: Orc In A Spacesuit, Bd, Baron von Skippy, Wonko
Mission Statement: The Owner of OrcTech has the position "Master".  If there 
is no Master of OrcTech, if any Employees have the Position "Next in Line 
X", where X is an integer, the Employee with the lowest X becomes the new 
Master.  If there are no such Employees, the Employee who has been an 
Employee the longest becomes the new Master. OrcTech performs Actions when 
its Owner says it does.
If Orc In A Spacesuit is an Employee and is not the Master, e becomes the 
Master.
If Orc In A Spacesuit is not an Employee of OrcTech, and e Applies to 
OrcTech, OrcTech automatically Hires him.
If Orc In A Spacesuit changes eir name, OrcTech modifies its Mission 
Statement to replace all instances in it of "Orc In A Spacesuit" to eir new 
name.
}}
[[End corporations list]]

Change the Charter of M-Tek to read the following:
{{
Glotmorf is the Prez of M-Tek.  M-Tek takes an action other than modifying 
its Charter upon the Prez saying it does, or after 2 ndays of 1/2 of the 
members of M-Tek say it does if the Prez does not veto the action.  If there 
is no Prez of M-Tek, the member of M-Tek with the highest Entropy becomes 
the new Prez.
M-Tek uses the Unanimous Consent Standart Method for modifying its Charter.
At the beginning of each nweek's voting period, if M-Tek could have legally 
submited a proposal but did not, the Prez must give 5 points to each other 
member of M-Tek, if possible.
}}

[[The reason for the 2 nday limit is that otherwise the actions happen 
instantly, and any vetoes come afterwards, and therefore don't work because 
of retroactivity.  Unless of course you veto before the action takes place, 
which I find unlikly to happen.]]

Change the Charter of The Secret Mookies to the following:
{{
'Lord Gregarian' is the High Mookie.
The High Mookies performs any actions the High Mookie says it does.
}}

Destroy all societies other than M-Tek, The Secret Mookies, and Insert Name 
Here.
}}
[[end proposal]]

I didn't modify the charter of INH, as I want to get this out, and I believe 
the charter is functional (although worded funny) with this prop.

Orc In A Spacesuit
hopes he fixed this enough.

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