Baron von Skippy on 19 Jul 2002 18:18:03 -0000


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Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Alterations (wow, that was fast...) 

>> >> >> >In my proposal, replace "Rules may not have a Chutzpah greater
>than
>> >1,
>> >> >> >and
>> >> >> >may under no circumstances take precedence over this rule." with
>> >>"Rules
>> >> >> >may
>> >> >> >not have a Chutzpah greater than 1, may not affect the dimensions 
>>of
>> >>any
>> >> >> >player, and may under no circumstances take precedence over this
>> >>rule."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Also, add to the end of the second paragraph "If an Immutable Rule 
>> >> >>appears
>> >> >> >to not be related to the Quest for the Immutable Rule and/or
>>appears
>> >>to
>> >> >>be
>> >> >> >a
>> >> >> >scam to allow a player to win (as judged by the Administrator),
>the
>> >> >> >Immutable Rule, and all others created by the rule's creator,
>shall
>> >be
>> >> >> >repealed, no effects of those rules shall be recognized, and the
>> >>player
>> >> >> >who
>> >> >> >created the rule shall lose the right to create Immutable Rules." 
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Better, Glotmorf?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Getting there.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>{{ _Glotmorf's Immutable Rule_
>> >> >>
>> >> >>At the beginning of each nweek, Luigi buys as many random gremlins
>>from
>> >> >>vSOI as the gremlin fund can afford. Said gremlins are distributed 
>> >> >>randomly on the grid.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>}}
>> >> >>
>> >> >>That doesn't change any dimensions, but should give all us vSOIers a 
>> >>tidy
>> >> >>stipend.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>BTW, "and all others created by the rule's creator"...All other
>what?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>						Glotmorf
>> >> >>
>> >> >-God, it's too late for this crap... okay, but it /does/ change the
>> >> >gamestate. I knew I should have made that illegal instead... not that 
>> >I'd
>> >> >complain about that rule, mind you. I'd be raking it in from vSOI and 
>> >> >Gnome
>> >> >Ministry stuff... but I see the point of making that illegal. *sigh* 
>> >>Fine.
>> >> >
>> >> >Instead of "may not affect the dimensions of any player," add "may
>not
>> >> >alter
>> >> >the gamestate" to the appropriate sentence in the first paragraph of 
>>my
>> >> >proposal.
>> >> >
>> >> >Anything else, your editorness? (Don't get me wrong, I appreciate
>this
>> >> >troubleshooting...)-
>> >>
>> >>Ooo...
>> >>
>> >>{{ _Glotmorf's Immutable Rule_
>> >>
>> >>No player other than Glotmorf can receive points.
>> >>
>> >>}}
>> >>
>> >>Are you sure this is a good idea, guy?
>> >>
>> >>						Glotmorf
>> >>
>> >-*ahem* "If an Immutable Rule appears to not be related to the Quest for 
>> >the
>> >Immutable Rule and/or appears to be a scam to allow a player to win (as >> >judged by the Administrator), the Immutable Rule, and all others created 
>> >by
>> >the rule's creator, shall be repealed, no effects of those rules shall
>be
>> >recognized, and the player who created the rule shall lose the right to >> >create Immutable Rules." Gotcha covered there. And no, I'm not sure, but 
>> >I'm
>> >not sure anything ever done in this game is a good idea. It's all for
>>fun.-
>>
>>Sounds pretty subjective. Especially if Mr. A fails to judge an irule to 
>>be a scam or irrelevant to the quest for an nweek...at that point does
>the
>>statute of limitations kick in?  Or can Mr. A make said judgment at any
>>time in the process of the quest?
>>
>>And you didn't answer my question: "...and all others created by the
>rule's
>>creator".  All other what?  Rules?  Dude...do you have any idea how much
>of
>>the ruleset I'm responsible for?  I could create a deliberate emergency
>>just by creating a deliberately scammy irule. :)
>>
>>But okay, let's go for subtle now...
>>
>>{{ _Glotmorf's Immutable Rule v2.1_
>>
>>Rule changes by a given player must occur in consecutive quantities of
>two
>>or more.  If a rule change by a player is not preceded by a rule change
>by
>>the same player, no other rule change can be made until at least one
>other
>>rule change has been made by that player.
>>
>>}}
>>
>>So I wait until late in nday 7 to submit all my proposals.  Then I wait
>>until late in nday 10 to submit this irule. As a result, since the irule >>isn't preceded by a rule change made by me, no other rule change (such as 
>>those in other people's proposals) can be made, except for the ones made
>by
>>my proposals.
>>
>>						Glotmorf
>>
>-"...the Immutable Rule, and all others created by the rule's creator..."
>Context there is supposed to suggest other Immutables. Clever... so you've 
>found a possible Immutable Rule. Great. Fine. I'm going to bed. This is
>too
>hucking fard when I'm this tired. Tomorrow I'll redo large portions of it
>(you bastard) to make IRules (new from Macintosh: twice the cost and 1%
>better performance...) seperate from the other ruleset. That'll be
>whatever
>the number is/3, and the prop's only existed for an hour and a half.
>Christ...-

Glad to be of help.  Sleep well...:)

						Glotmorf
-Okay, I've got it now, but this is gonna cause a discrepancy with Rule 10, but I think it'll be okay because, even though Rule 10 claims to take precedence, this proposal will have a higher Chutzpah... yeah, it'll work fine, according to the bulleted list in Rule 33. Good. Fine. Whatever. I'm sure you'll find a way out of this one...- 

                                                  -BvS-


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