Re: spoon-discuss: Re: spoon-business: Prop change

["Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 5/13/02 at 4:36 PM Wonko wrote:

>Quoth Ed Murphy,
>
>> "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/12/02 at 9:58 PM Ed Murphy wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In prop 680, replathe the tectht delimited by @@@
>>>>
>>>> This is ambiguous.  "@@@" appears six times in your message (though two
>>>> pairs out of those six overlap each other).
>>>
>>> Nine, if you count the opening statement.  You're not making the best
>>> possible first impression, guy...:)
>>
>> Oh, I haven't even started yet.  Wait till I grok the Rules enough to
>> start making my own Proposals.  :)
>>
>> More seriously:  Why is Rule 155 broken?  Gavin just mentioned a past
>> CFJ, but I wasn't here when it occurred.
>>
>
>It forbids proposals to discriminate between players depending on how they
>voted on a certain issue. The CFJ RePol refers to is an ancient one that
>decided that the effects of rules created by proposals do not count as
>effects of the proposal itself. Thus, r155 is broken because one can get
>around it simply by making a rule to do the counting for you.
>
>--
>Wonko

Except that the current version of r155 says that rules that count votes are an effect of the proposals that made them do that.  So r155 isn't currently broken.  Though it doesn't exactly forbid proposals that make rules that count votes; it just says that if one makes a rule that takes action based on vote count, it doesn't actually take that action.

						Glotmorf