Glotmorf on 2 Apr 2002 13:49:31 -0000


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Re: spoon-discuss: Re: spoon-business: Ballot?


On 4/1/02 at 11:02 PM Eric Gerlach wrote:

>At 10:19 PM 2002-04-01 -0500, you wrote:
>>Quoth r23:
>>
>>"The Administrator shall, at least 48 hours prior to the close of voting
>>each nweek, distribute to all Players the Ballot for that nweek. The
>Ballot
>>shall list all proposals that were recognized after the start of the
>>previous nweek's voting period."
>>
>>I have yet to see such a Ballot this nweek, even though the deadline has
>>passed. My question is this: Has the Ballot in fact been distributed to
>all
>>players, and listed all proposals that were recognized after the start of
>>the previous nweek's voting period? Because according to the world, the
>>admin hasn't sent it out, and according to the rule, e has... Do we have
>>some procedure for dealing with rules that make false statements?
>>     As far as I can tell, the procedure so far has been to assume the
>>statement is true within the context of the Nomic Game, as in, although
>>there is not, in the real world, a Scoring Gremlin, we assume the
>statement
>>"There exists a Gremlin called the Scoring Gremlin" to be true in the
>>context of the Game. But by that logic, we must also assume that the Admin
>>has, in fact, already distributed 'a Ballot' which has listed all
>proposals
>>for this nweek. So it's 'happened'. It just hasn't happened.
>
>I know I'm a stickler for rule accuracy and literality, so I'm thinking
>that we have two options in this scenario.  Option one, invoke rule 0.  I
>don't like that option, it's icky.
>
>Option two:  Informal vote:  Stop the clock until such a time as the admin
>starts it again.  It's our game, and we can do what we want to.  If we all
>turn a blind eye to it, sure it's against the rules but we'll never know
>the difference.  I vote yes on my informal proposal.  Anyone else?
>
>Bean

Are there any new propothalth or modificathionth to propothalth that haven't been recognithed yet?  Do we accurately know at thith point what the ballot ith?

						Glotmorf