Antonio on 4 Dec 2001 23:52:02 -0000

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Re: spoon-discuss: what am I missing?

On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 00:39:50 +0100, Antonio <zagarna@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 00:34:30 +0100, Antonio <zagarna@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 23:20:36 +0000 (GMT), "David E. Smith" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Point taken, though. Is this sufficiently clear?
>>>"A Motion is a formal request for a change in the Rules, and must dictate,
>>>as precisely as possible, the nature of the rule changes to be enacted
>>>upon its successful passage."
>>>This deliberately ignores most other types of motions, which will no doubt
>>>come into being soon enough. :)
>>in this case we might lose the concept of "motion" altogether and simply use
>>"Proposal" instead
>that definition of motion also contradicts the rule about proposals:
>since proposals are motions, proposals cannot modify anything but the rules,
>while rule 19 states: "...upon their successful passage, a change to the Rules
>or some other aspect of the game...."

on the other hand we could make the rule about Motions something like this:

"A Motion is a formal request for a number of changes in some aspect of the
game, and must dictate, as precisely as possible, the nature of the changes to
be enacted upon its successful adoption."

and change rule 19/0 to read:

"Proposals are Motions which [[ typically ]] require, upon their successful
adoption, a change to the Rules. A Proposal, when submitted, must consist of one
or more changes to the Rules.

Every Proposal must have a unique Proposal number, assigned by the

and maybe we also need the following change to rule 33/0:

"A Motion must be voted on to be adopted. A Motion is adopted if, and only if,
it receives a simple majority of votes [[ i.e. more than 50% of all votes cast
are affirmative ]] ."

and we may also need something to say that you can only vote during the voting
period and something about quorum

Sorry about cluttering up the mailing list, I seem to be thinking by little
steps today:

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