Re: spoon-discuss: P398 revision

[Jeff N Schroeder <jschrodr@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

You wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 12:42:27PM +0100, Jorg Rathlev wrote:
>> > Change "Newbie Players shall be treated like regular Players,=20
>> with the exception that they cannot become Officers or Judges."=20
>> to "Newbie Players shall be treated like regular Players, with=20
>> the exception that they are not eligible voters and cannot become=20
>> Officers or Judges."
>> >=20
>>=20
>> How is that really different from being an Agent?
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>Oh well... since Agents can do almost everything, the main difference is =
>probably that you can be [AWAY] ;-)
>
>Seriously, the main difference is that you can make motions, even after =
>the rules have been fixed so that Agents cannot. Joel, didn't you plan =
>to make such a proposal?
>
>I expected the other difference to be that as a Newbie Player, you can =
>earn points, but looking at the rules again, I see that Agents in fact =
>*do* have scores. Agents can even win the game.
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>Thinking about it, I realize that Newbie Players can safely become =
>Officers. Officers are elected anyway, and I guess if the majority of =
>Players does not agree with a Newbie becoming a Player, they won't elect =
>him anyway. I'll revise my proposal to allow Newbies to become Officers.
>
>Yet another thought, if there's no big difference between Players and =
>Agents except Players can vote (well now that *is* a big difference, but =
>the rules even leave a possibility for Agents to be voters), doesn't =
>this show that Agents might have too many possibilities?

I realized this some time ago and have been meaning to exploit it, but 
haven't had the ambition to figure out how! :)  Really, I never 
understood why Joel changed the rules from: Players being really the only 
thing important in the game - to EVERYTHING that can move (ie "being 
capable of action") being in the game, but only the smart ones can vote 
and be officers, etc.  I think that he should also keep track of every 
agent and its score or lack thereof.  I think I may make a proposal as 
such pending the opinion of others... :)

jeff